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2 months 2 weeks ago #759265 by Bob Brogan
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Registered racehorses found and banned for 90 days...

No names yet www.sportingpost.co.za/2019/04/nha-bush-racing/

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2 months 2 weeks ago #759268 by Muhtiman
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.....HKGK....:ohmy:

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2 months 2 weeks ago - 2 months 2 weeks ago #759287 by Over the Air
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So we have trainers racing horses illegally in the bush.

I wonder how many of those that race horses illegally have been under a cloud lately for doping offences? I wonder if any of the horses bust racing on the weekend are regular participants and who have in and out form? I wonder if any of these horses have ever had lameness issues? I wonder if all owners of these bush racers were aware that their horses were being utilised illegally?

I wonder whether the big mouths on here are involved? This will be very interesting.

Well done NHA!
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2 months 2 weeks ago #759291 by Craig Eudey
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Very good questions there OTA. My info so far is that a trainer can race there as the racing itself is 100% legal but not with horses that are registered to race under NHRA rules. The horse's cannot do both. NHRA can only suspend them for 90 days. Am saddling for a trainer at Greyville tomorrow so will find out more from the stipes. I have been given some names of trainers who do participate in bush racing with horses that are racing under NHRA rules at the same time. As you say it opens a whole can of worms as you can then throw the form book away as you don't know who has had an extra race or 2 between its last run.

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2 months 2 weeks ago #759292 by Bob Brogan
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I remember an owner on here said his horse won a bush race in between two runs I think one Kimberley and one Vaal

Can’t remember the horse but nothing was done .

I actually think the bush race was in Namibia

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2 months 2 weeks ago #759296 by naresh
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Bob Brogan wrote: I remember an owner on here said his horse won a bush race in between two runs I think one Kimberley and one Vaal

Can’t remember the horse but nothing was done .

I actually think the bush race was in Namibia


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2 months 2 weeks ago #759301 by Bob Brogan
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That`s it thanks :)

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2 months 2 weeks ago #759308 by Bob Brogan
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Think we should wait for horses names and reasons, had for trainers names sent to me.. One of them very surprising

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2 months 2 weeks ago #759311 by dilligaf
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It will be interesting to read if the owners agreed to these extra events or if the trainer was trying to make a quick buck only for himself....

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2 months 2 weeks ago #759317 by Muhtiman
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.....we have all heard or even used the word .....in a phrase like this....the jock bushed the horse....or rode it in the bushes....now strong competition from trainers....really. are now bushing horses in the bush.....:dry:

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2 months 2 weeks ago - 2 months 2 weeks ago #759342 by Over the Air
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If the NHA have an employee of the year award it will be difficult to look past David Rahilly. What a job he is doing, well done David.

It is very quiet from our Kimberley kerels, the names are out boys what say you - IT WASNT ME???
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2 months 2 weeks ago #759346 by Bob Brogan
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I don`t think any of the Kimb trainers would be involved.. Seemingly its a 900km round trip

We will find out on Friday

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2 months 2 weeks ago #759369 by harry hotspur
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Maybe the trainers are not from kimberly

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2 months 2 weeks ago #759588 by Over the Air
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What odds a delay or no mention in todays report?

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2 months 2 weeks ago #759592 by Muhtiman
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.....there is always room under that carpet......:dry:

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2 months 2 weeks ago #759595 by Sharky
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This may be a stupid question but how do they earn stakes or money racing in the bush? What benefits are there besides the obvious running a horse a few times and then racing it as a first timer legitimately? It doesn’t make much sense to me... all that effort for what?

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2 months 2 weeks ago #759596 by harry hotspur
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Hey Rob Stranger can you imagine the Van der merve jokes after this story gets told?

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2 months 2 weeks ago - 2 months 2 weeks ago #759600 by Mac
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The owners bet against each other. That’s how racing started and it is how it will end in SA. You see, one does not need punters but only owners who will pay trainers and jocks wages and fees.


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2 months 2 weeks ago #759611 by MissT
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Wow Mac I respect you sir and obviously you are entitled to an opinion but that will never happen again unless it's a one on one. The take out from punting pools is what keeps this industry going and seriously there wouldn't and couldnt be enough owners trainers or jocks that could survive if that was the case. Owners already pay huge sums to trainers and vets and entry fees as well as transport to name a few. No form of racing will survive with a handfull of owners racing for their own money. That may have been the case a hundred years ago but it will never work now. No person in his right mind is going to go through the whole process of breeding and upkeep and racing at his own expense.. not in this day and age my friend. Maybe one or 2 would consider it ad a challenge or a once off but honestly it will never happen again as you describe it. The punters and their money is the only way this industry can and would survive. That's my opinion and of course you are entitled to yours.
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2 months 1 week ago #759645 by Bob Brogan
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Are the Registrations Changes updates delayed today ...Surprise, surprise

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