Rugby Championship

Chook, secs away from beating the best teams on the planet

Bob Brogan wrote: Chook, secs away from beating the best teams on the planet

Yes but SA still lost both matches when they should have won, They do
Not know how to finish off teams or close a match,

I see that according to News24 here, many UK papers praised the game and gave SA very good reviews. We are getting there.

Craig Eudey wrote: I see that according to News24 here, many UK papers praised the game and gave SA very good reviews. We are getting there.

Only because they hope these two teams smash each other in a WCup semi with England on the other side of the draw !! Strange how the draw panned out to try to get a NH team into the final...

Australia to play NZ in the final

England could very well go out in the group stage where they play Wales and Australia

I fully support SA but I cant see them winning, besides I would be mortified as then HM would be a world champion coach. No thanks

Craig Eudey wrote: I see that according to News24 here, many UK papers praised the game and gave SA very good reviews. We are getting there.

You would know as you had a front row, whilst us plebs stood in the peanut ring.

HM a world champion coach, "no thanks" :lol:

Cape Town - Much has been made of All Black captain Richie McCaw’s match-winning try against the Springboks in their Rugby Championship match on Saturday, but the real question was whether or not it was a legal move?
McCaw scored in the 74th minute to give the All Blacks a lead they didn’t let go of, by flummoxing the Springbok defence at the lineout on the Bok line and scoring almost untouched.
But, according to the supersport.com website, replays of the try show that it should have been referred and possibly even disallowed as McCaw was offside on two counts.
Not the commentators, not the assistant referees nor referee Jerome Garces picked it up live and never referred it to the television match official with the try eventually leading to New Zealand’s win in the epic game.
Watch the try again though and keep in mind what the laws say, and it becomes clear that it should never have been given and referee Garces made a mistake.
Firstly when the lineout is formed, McCaw stands in the halfback – or receiver – position and therefore is not part of the lineout.
According to World Rugby law 19.8.i - (i) Where the receiver must stand. If a team uses a receiver, then that player, must be positioned at least 2m back from team-mates in the lineout, and between the 5m and 15m lines, until the lineout begins. Once the lineout has commenced, the receiver may move into the lineout and may perform all actions available to players in the lineout and is liable to related sanctions.
McCaw is within the two metre rule and while referees don’t always police this fairly, as the receiver/halfback teams do not position their lineout defence for a halfback entering the lineout as it is illegal.
Then there are two more aspects which makes the try illegal – the first that McCaw moves before the ball is thrown in, which places him in an offside position.
Read with law 19.9 (a) – which says “The lineout begins when the ball leaves the hands of the player throwing it in”, it is clear that McCaw has moved before the ball has left the hooker’s hands, and since he is not 2 metres back, has all the advantage from an illegal position.
But to take it further, law 19.10 (f) says “A player must not jump or be lifted or supported before the ball has left the hands of the player throwing in.” If you watch the video, you can see how Kieran Read is lifted before the ball leaves the hooker’s hands, taking the Springbok attention away from McCaw.
Of course, the All Black captain went through a gap and was missed by the player the Boks had as their receiver – Adriaan Strauss – and the try was given, giving New Zealand the lead in a crucial stage of the game with six minutes to go.
But while it was planned and is a blatant offside, the referee allowed the try to stand, and didn’t query it even though captain Schalk Burger asked for it to be queried.
Of course the Boks will kick themselves for the chances they never took, including Vincent Koch knocking on with an open goalline, Lood de Jager’s “try” that wasn’t given by the TMO and a wild pass by Willie le Roux with an open Cornal Hendricks on his outside, proving again that to beat the best team in the world you need to take the chances when they come your way.
The Boks will be upset that they lost a game they came close to winning on Saturday, but they cannot be blamed for McCaw’s try, which shouldn’t have been allowed in the first place.
SuperSport

quote of Bobs above post, Of course the Boks will kick themselves for the chances they never took, including Vincent Koch knocking on with an open goalline, Lood de Jager’s “try” that wasn’t given by the TMO and a wild pass by Willie le Roux with an open Cornal Hendricks on his outside, proving again that to beat the best team in the world you need to take the chances when they come your way unquote

Once again it proves that the TMO should not be local. The Aussie try was awarded by an Aussie TMO. The no to the SA try was made by an English TMO. (imo he made the correct call as from the above shot you could not give it whereas last week in the Aussie match the benefit should have gone to the defending team) After that match against the Aussies I asked myself this. I wonder what the TMO who have called if it was on the opposite end of the field. Try no Try? Definitely no try.

I'm going for an absolute flyer in the Aus/NZ this week.

Coming into the last game of the Championship,these two teams have everything to play for,with Aus in fact on top of the log with a points difference(PD) of 1.

It is also the 1st leg of the two leg Bledisloe Cup.

Of the last 17 encounters,NZ have won 13,Aus 2 and there have been two draws.

On those stats,and at around 4/9 NZ should therefore be a punt,but I'm just not feeling it this time.

I'm therefore going for an absolute flyer,and having a small bet on the draw at 25-1.

No team plays for this result in a rugby game,but with the log being so close,a draw would in fact secure the Championship for Aus.

The two recent draws between these two teams have both been on Aussie soil too,so although I'm only a 4%er to collect,I'm throwing my few rand this way this time.

So close to world cup I would assume Australia will be more motivated to win today than New Zealand, South Africa will win albeit unimpressively and Meyer will be telling all in sundry they are on the right track to win the world cup, irritating beyond belief

Meyer just says that they on track to cover up for his mismanagement of the team. He has no idea when it comes to international rugby. He would be better off coaching some club side in the outer sticks. His heart is in it but his brain is not. Well how could he, he is brainless.