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14 years 9 months ago
BTW, Tommy, there's also a full brother to Bad Girl Runs making his debut on Saturday.
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14 years 9 months ago
magiclips Wrote:
> BTW, Tommy, there's also a full brother to Bad
> Girl Runs making his debut on Saturday.
I saw that magic, I believe he runs in the 10th?
The racing in the Cape on Saturday could not be more exciting if it tried!!! I'm super pumped for the meeting.
It sure beats the drivel they try to feed us in Jozi.........terrible, terrible, terrible.
> BTW, Tommy, there's also a full brother to Bad
> Girl Runs making his debut on Saturday.
I saw that magic, I believe he runs in the 10th?
The racing in the Cape on Saturday could not be more exciting if it tried!!! I'm super pumped for the meeting.
It sure beats the drivel they try to feed us in Jozi.........terrible, terrible, terrible.
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14 years 9 months ago
Yes Tommy counting the days to when we will have some good racing again up North.
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14 years 9 months ago
scotia Wrote:
> Yes Tommy counting the days to when we will have
> some good racing again up North.
And that is when the weather is cr@p, at least if the last horrible summer repeats itself.
> Yes Tommy counting the days to when we will have
> some good racing again up North.
And that is when the weather is cr@p, at least if the last horrible summer repeats itself.
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14 years 9 months ago
It's interesting that there are a lot of the positive opinions of WC racing and yet the betting turnovers contradict those positives.
Jack's point about stand alone meetings is undoubtedly relevant, but when it shares dates,turnover suggests,that WC is seldom supported as meeting of choice.
The bottom line is,punters prefer punting elsewhere !
(I stopped punting WC about 18 months ago and my reasons are simply that too many races were run/ridden with horses trying(I think) to weave their way through a wall of horses,and needing too much luck.
All I ask of a horse that I back is that it is ridden "shortest way around the turn and clearest way down the straight",whenever possible,and I was frustrated many times when a horse I backed,was off the pace,and on coming into the straight,followed the whole field down the inside, not getting a gap and losing any realistic chance of winning.)
Surely WC racing needs to do a survey to establish what is inhibiting its turnovers!
Good horses should create interest.
Jack's point about stand alone meetings is undoubtedly relevant, but when it shares dates,turnover suggests,that WC is seldom supported as meeting of choice.
The bottom line is,punters prefer punting elsewhere !
(I stopped punting WC about 18 months ago and my reasons are simply that too many races were run/ridden with horses trying(I think) to weave their way through a wall of horses,and needing too much luck.
All I ask of a horse that I back is that it is ridden "shortest way around the turn and clearest way down the straight",whenever possible,and I was frustrated many times when a horse I backed,was off the pace,and on coming into the straight,followed the whole field down the inside, not getting a gap and losing any realistic chance of winning.)
Surely WC racing needs to do a survey to establish what is inhibiting its turnovers!
Good horses should create interest.
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14 years 8 months ago
Aldo rode four winners for Bass yesterday while KN was away...
KN is my favourate jockey in the Cape, whenever i say this to people they look at me sideways...he consistently rides more than 100 winners a season without travelling much...thats something someone like Gavin Van Zyl never managed to achieve
I know its all been said before...but surely for a man of his obvious ability and experience he rides to many poor races...and very often on fancied runners...i always thought it had something to do with his age because Loyd became the same the older got...
There are to many poor rides to remember but the one that will always stick with me is the ride he gave Dynasty as a two year old on Gold Cup day during 2002...the crowd wanted to kill him...
KN the befair layers alltime favourite!!!
KN is my favourate jockey in the Cape, whenever i say this to people they look at me sideways...he consistently rides more than 100 winners a season without travelling much...thats something someone like Gavin Van Zyl never managed to achieve
I know its all been said before...but surely for a man of his obvious ability and experience he rides to many poor races...and very often on fancied runners...i always thought it had something to do with his age because Loyd became the same the older got...
There are to many poor rides to remember but the one that will always stick with me is the ride he gave Dynasty as a two year old on Gold Cup day during 2002...the crowd wanted to kill him...
KN the befair layers alltime favourite!!!
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14 years 8 months ago
Kenilworth ? Fantastic racing!!!
Those who complain simply dont know how to pick winners and that's the bottom line.
There are more form horses that win at Kenilworth than any other track in S.A.
If you follow any jockey in the country you will most certainly loose,back the horse not the jock.
A ready to win horse will win with any jockey aboard not only the top ones.
Come on guys wake up and smell the form.
Those who complain simply dont know how to pick winners and that's the bottom line.
There are more form horses that win at Kenilworth than any other track in S.A.
If you follow any jockey in the country you will most certainly loose,back the horse not the jock.
A ready to win horse will win with any jockey aboard not only the top ones.
Come on guys wake up and smell the form.
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14 years 8 months ago
I think he (KN) owns the PA pools in CPT as PAC Miller owns the PA pool at Peter Miller Park (sorry - Flamingo Park)
I try and scheme like him when it comes to the PA.
Where can I (KN) banker myself and where can we leave ourself out (fav)
So, between the 2 of us, we either share the majority of the pool or he outschemes me an collects 2/3 of the pool.
But we live in Harmony.
Don't know what I am going to do when he retires, who will run the show?
Don't get me wrong - we don't scheme together - I have never met him.
Perhaps just as well, we would be winning 95% of the PA pools in CPT.
Perhaps that's what we ought to consider as a retirement venture!
I try and scheme like him when it comes to the PA.
Where can I (KN) banker myself and where can we leave ourself out (fav)
So, between the 2 of us, we either share the majority of the pool or he outschemes me an collects 2/3 of the pool.
But we live in Harmony.
Don't know what I am going to do when he retires, who will run the show?
Don't get me wrong - we don't scheme together - I have never met him.
Perhaps just as well, we would be winning 95% of the PA pools in CPT.
Perhaps that's what we ought to consider as a retirement venture!
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14 years 8 months ago
karl neisius is one of the finest horseman this country has ever produced...at the age of 53 he still boots home winner after winner and is still used by two of the countries best trainers in mike bass and dean kanemeyer ..he has that gift that very few have in that he can tell you so much about a horse after just cantering it nevermind riding it in a race...i should know he cantered a filly i owned just once and said she could win a 1000m out the box which she duly did and that she would just get a mile which she barely got...most of the new kids on the block cant tel you if they on a filly or a colt nevermind dist etc...i have no doubt that he will be in the hall of fame at kenilworth when he one day retires
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@pirates...i agree with you 100%...KN is one of the best...his record speaks for itself...thats why its very difficult to understand his very poor riding from time to time on horses that are fancied by those yards...
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14 years 8 months ago
So he must ride another 12 years to pension (age 65)
Still young.
Good we got 12 years to win the full pot for ourselves?
Still young.
Good we got 12 years to win the full pot for ourselves?
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