Vaal races Thursday
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Re: Re: Vaal races Thursday
13 years 11 months ago
gregbucks Wrote:
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GB... all u need is big dogs for 2nd 3rd 4th..... pays well....
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GB... all u need is big dogs for 2nd 3rd 4th..... pays well....

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- Unlucky_Dube
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Re: Re: Vaal races Thursday
13 years 11 months ago
According to google..
overlay-
Verb: Cover the surface of (a thing) with a coating: "their fingernails were overlaid with gold".
Noun: Something laid as a covering over something else: "a durable floor overlay".
I'm still looking for a nice definition when used in gambling on the web. I know Happyy Horse Player should have a good definition.
overlay-
Verb: Cover the surface of (a thing) with a coating: "their fingernails were overlaid with gold".
Noun: Something laid as a covering over something else: "a durable floor overlay".
I'm still looking for a nice definition when used in gambling on the web. I know Happyy Horse Player should have a good definition.
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Re: Re: Vaal races Thursday
13 years 11 months ago
LOOPY's INTENT RULES (Just to piss people off
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R3: Fortnums - Tony's Tipple - Triumphant - Comical Guy - Revresco - Trade Ban - Point Hope

R3: Fortnums - Tony's Tipple - Triumphant - Comical Guy - Revresco - Trade Ban - Point Hope
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Re: Re: Vaal races Thursday
13 years 11 months ago
Solotrama Wrote:
> too much sex Gb!
Impossible....
> too much sex Gb!
Impossible....

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Re: Re: Vaal races Thursday
13 years 11 months ago
Loopy Logic Wrote:
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Loops can you narrow that down a bit....

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Re: Re: Vaal races Thursday
13 years 11 months ago
Quartet R4 - 5,6,7,9,12 x 1 x F x F. Bankered the 1 in my POT though, just a small quartet to cover base, cause when I bank they, normally end up 2nd best :

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Re: Re: Vaal races Thursday
13 years 11 months ago
GB, Gambling 101...
OVERLAY BETTING
The definition of overlay betting is simply “securing your value prices or better”. In other words, a horse is an overlay when you can get odds about any horse you have value rated that are the same or better than the prices you have rated it at. If A is value rated at 2/1 and 2/1 or better is the price you can get, then the horse is an overlay and should be backed. If the horse is at 3/1 then this is sometimes described as a 50% overlay. At 4/1 the horse would be described as a double overlay etc.
Since computers revolutionised the rating business in the 80”s the vast majority of thinking punters have adopted the overlay principle, i.e. they only bet when they can obtain an overlay. Unfortunately, the bookmakers of today are privy to the same information we are and do their best to ensure that as few overlay’s as possible are available. These days it is becoming more and more difficult to obtain overlay prices about your selections.
The original concept was to back every rated runner in a race on which you could obtain an overlay price and ignore those horses that were an underlay or poor value. The problem with this is that as the value prices get longer the actual prospects of these longer rated horses winning recedes as the price goes out. Your 4/1 value rated chances will probably only win 1 race in 4.5, your value rated horses at 5/1 will probably win only 1 race in 7, your value rated horses at 10/1 will only win perhaps 1 race in 20 and so on.
This is not to say that your value ratings are faulty, far from it. You will find that the underlay or poor value horse will win far more than it’s rightful proportion of races. This effect is accelerated as the ratings prices shrink so that when we reach the value rated horses at 2/1 or less that are only available at under our rated prices we will find that those horses actually achieve a win rate of around 50% and sometimes more.
OVERLAY BETTING
The definition of overlay betting is simply “securing your value prices or better”. In other words, a horse is an overlay when you can get odds about any horse you have value rated that are the same or better than the prices you have rated it at. If A is value rated at 2/1 and 2/1 or better is the price you can get, then the horse is an overlay and should be backed. If the horse is at 3/1 then this is sometimes described as a 50% overlay. At 4/1 the horse would be described as a double overlay etc.
Since computers revolutionised the rating business in the 80”s the vast majority of thinking punters have adopted the overlay principle, i.e. they only bet when they can obtain an overlay. Unfortunately, the bookmakers of today are privy to the same information we are and do their best to ensure that as few overlay’s as possible are available. These days it is becoming more and more difficult to obtain overlay prices about your selections.
The original concept was to back every rated runner in a race on which you could obtain an overlay price and ignore those horses that were an underlay or poor value. The problem with this is that as the value prices get longer the actual prospects of these longer rated horses winning recedes as the price goes out. Your 4/1 value rated chances will probably only win 1 race in 4.5, your value rated horses at 5/1 will probably win only 1 race in 7, your value rated horses at 10/1 will only win perhaps 1 race in 20 and so on.
This is not to say that your value ratings are faulty, far from it. You will find that the underlay or poor value horse will win far more than it’s rightful proportion of races. This effect is accelerated as the ratings prices shrink so that when we reach the value rated horses at 2/1 or less that are only available at under our rated prices we will find that those horses actually achieve a win rate of around 50% and sometimes more.
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Re: Re: Vaal races Thursday
13 years 11 months ago
funny how the favourites just miss the PA..................?
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Re: Re: Vaal races Thursday
13 years 11 months ago
gregbucks Wrote:
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Thought I did Greg
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Thought I did Greg


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