Rod McCurdy

The ''Mean Machine'' ....X(

chicken 'n chips Wrote:

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> frodo
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> those days Transvaal had a fantastic team. Great
> bowlers and batsman. They never lost at home and
> hardly ever lost away.


The Mean Machine - Fotheringham, Pollock, Kevin Mckenzie, Lee Irvine, Ray Jennings - think that game I was talking about was at Newlands - wasn't' David Dyer the opener (or did he come after) - there was always this joke going around about Dyer going into bat and then his wife phones - 'sorry he just went out to bat' - 'that's OK, I'll hold on'

Nowadays the 'Lion's' bowlers would struggle to make a lot of high school first teams :S

Frodo I remember that game well. They use to start on a Friday, play the saturday, (Sondag GEEN SPORT) and finish the game on the Monday. Newlands were packed from Lunchtime on and Castle corner were a famous 'kuier-gat' Was it not Rob Drummond the wicky he bowled? Not sure

sa had great bowlers Hanley, VD Bjil, Le Roux, Jefferies, Rice. I wonder what team nowadays would keep those guys at bay

Ou Ryperd Wrote:

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> Frodo I remember that game well. They use to start
> on a Friday, play the saturday, (Sondag GEEN
> SPORT) and finish the game on the Monday. Newlands
> were packed from Lunchtime on and Castle corner
> were a famous 'kuier-gat' Was it not Rob Drummond
> the wicky he bowled? Not sure


You could be right, I just remember it was the keeper and Ricey bowled him with the last ball of the match - I think they had to bowl 15 overs in the last hour in those days - or was it 20? And they had bonus points - one bonus point for every 2 wickets up to 8 wickets and then another for the 9th wicket (use to be the 10th wicket, but the batting captains often declared at '9 down' to deny the opposition the extra point) and 1 point for every 25 runs scored after 150 - but it had to be in 80 or 85 overs - nice memories (tu)

frodo also the gillette cup limited overs matches were always close and the crowds would flock into all the grounds. I remember one final when WP were up against Natal and both teams "ran out" players by means of the bowler running out the non facing batsman following up. It caused a massive stir. I think that it was Peter Kirsten and Paddy Clift who were the unlucky batsman. All the finals were played in joburg.

@ Frodo.....that game at Newlands. Transvaal won by 4 runs

Western Province second innings Runs Balls Mins 4s 6s
*EJ Barlow c Hubbard b Neilson 17
A Bruyns c Rice b van der Knaap 95
PN Kirsten c Cook b de Vaal 12
KC Wessels st Irvine b van der Knaap 71
HM Ackerman b Neilson 9
AJ Lamb b Neilson 10
RET Morris b Rice 6
+RA Drummond b Rice 9
SA Jones b Rice 1
GS le Roux not out 0
DL Hobson run out 5
Extras (5 b, 7 lb) 12
Total (all out, 46 overs) 247
Fall of wickets:
1-32, 2-65, 3-183, 4-201, 5-221, 6-227, 7-231, 8-238, 9-246, 10-247 (46 ov)
Transvaal bowling Overs Mdns Runs Wkts Wides No-Balls
Neilson 12 0 70 3 - -
Hubbard 3 0 24 0 - -
Rice 2 0 6 3 - -
de Vaal 11 1 52 1 - -
van der Knaap 18 1 83 2 -

I remember the GIllete Cup - yes all finals at the Wandererers - I remember that incident vaguely - was not too interested in the game as Tvl did not play :

Ou Ryperd Wrote:

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> @ Frodo.....that game at Newlands. Transvaal won
> by 4 runs
>
> Western Province second
> innings Runs Balls Mins 4s 6s
> *EJ Barlow c Hubbard b Neilson 17
> A Bruyns c Rice b van der Knaap 95
> PN Kirsten c Cook b de Vaal 12
> KC Wessels st Irvine b van der Knaap 71
> HM Ackerman b Neilson 9
> AJ Lamb b Neilson 10
> RET Morris b Rice 6
> +RA Drummond b Rice 9
> SA Jones b Rice 1
> GS le Roux not out 0
> DL Hobson run out 5
> Extras (5 b, 7 lb) 12
> Total (all out, 46 overs) 247
> Fall of wickets:
> 1-32, 2-65, 3-183, 4-201, 5-221, 6-227, 7-231,
> 8-238, 9-246, 10-247 (46 ov)
> Transvaal
> bowling Overs Mdns Runs Wkts Wides No-Balls
> Neilson 12 0 70 3 - -
> Hubbard 3 0 24 0 - -
> Rice 2 0 6 3 - -
> de Vaal 11 1 52 1 - -
> van der Knaap 18 1 83 2 -


Thanks OR - so I confused Ken Mckewan with Andre Bruyns - Doug Nielson, Peter De Vaal was the spinner with David van der Knaap - can't remember the Hubbard guy ?

I used to bunk school after lunchtime on a friday and go down to newlands and spend the whole day there on the saturday as well. we used to sit in front of the oakes and then jump over the fence so that we could sit in the oakes. We dare not leave until the end of the days play as you had to show your ticket stub and the blokes at the gates were very strict. As i got older I progressed to castle corner where the beer just flowed relentlessly. I spent many a saturday half comatosed there.

Talking about jumping over the fence - when I was still in primary school my dad had a season ticket at Ellis Park - he used to take me with on a Saturday afternoon - went in through the little gate to the season ticket holders' seats and then walked along the low fence for twenty yards or so (away from the 'gatekeeper's' watchful eye) - and then handed me the match program - inside which was his season ticket - they clipped the tickets at the entrance gate and not the season ticket holders' gate - so I watched many a game using this method (tu)

Here's a cricketing trivia. This memory seems to stick to my mind. ( I might be totally off the mark)

Alan Border retired from the game. His last game was in SA . ( a test match I think).

The question - which South African player bowled the last over to him.