How About A 2-Tiered Stipendiary System

Subjectivity and interpretation are the nature of refereeing in all sports.Technology can be used to gain further insight,but ultimately all decisions are subjective to some degree.If there is going to be subjectivity,then one would want consistent subjectivity.That's all I'm asking for.

Justanotherpunter Wrote:

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> What you say above is exactly my point.How we
> don't have the same people making the decisions
> for all our racing is beyond me.Inconsistency is
> the the only thing that is constant with these
> objections.A centralized board would surely negate
> this problem to a large degree.
>
> We also have large numbers of international
> customers betting on our racing now(it is after
> all the only place the business is growing),so
> surely we want to run this show by international
> standards.Higher standards of integrity and more
> consistent decisions in instances like objections
> means our product is perceived in a favourable
> light.
>
> My 10 yr old is capable of more logical decison
> making than what goes on in this industry
.

do you know how i feel as an international player betting on USA racing? the horse wins a race in the process he bumps another "no hoper" going nowhere had no chance of beating him or any of the other 5/6 horses in front of him, and what happenned the winner gets disqualified? and placed behind the no hoper, thank you but no thank you, wont see my money again.

I do believe in SA we have a fair system, yes sometimes they do not get it right but I do think in most cases they do, and i am certain that the international customers is bound to get a far better deal in SA than what they ever will get in some other racing countries, as far as I could determine how they deal with objections,the USA system is the worst of the lot. at least a no hoper can not cost the winner a race in SA by just getting bumped and no hoper runs nowhere!!

JAMES BLOND Wrote:

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> Justanotherpunter Wrote:
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> > What you say above is exactly my point.How we
> > don't have the same people making the decisions
> > for all our racing is beyond me.Inconsistency
> is
> > the the only thing that is constant with these
> > objections.A centralized board would surely
> negate
> > this problem to a large degree.
> >
> > We also have large numbers of international
> > customers betting on our racing now(it is after
> > all the only place the business is growing),so
> > surely we want to run this show by
> international
> > standards.Higher standards of integrity and
> more
> > consistent decisions in instances like
> objections
> > means our product is perceived in a favourable
> > light.
> >
> > My 10 yr old is capable of more logical decison
> > making than what goes on in this industry
> .
>
> do you know how i feel as an international player
> betting on USA racing? the horse wins a race in
> the process he bumps another "no hoper" going
> nowhere had no chance of beating him or any of the
> other 5/6 horses in front of him, and what
> happenned the winner gets disqualified? and
> placed behind the no hoper, thank you but no thank
> you, wont see my money again.
>
> I do believe in SA we have a fair system, yes
> sometimes they do not get it right but I do think
> in most cases they do, and i am certain that the
> international customers is bound to get a far
> better deal in SA than what they ever will get in
> some other racing countries, as far as I could
> determine how they deal with objections,the USA
> system is the worst of the lot. at least a no
> hoper can not cost the winner a race in SA by just
> getting bumped and no hoper runs nowhere!!


u always see 1 side....what if the no hoper who is going nowhere hangs all over the favourite..and beats the favourite....would u be happy then?

Justanotherpunter Wrote:

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> Subjectivity and interpretation are the nature of
> refereeing in all sports.Technology can be used to
> gain further insight,but ultimately all decisions
> are subjective to some degree.If there is going to
> be subjectivity,then one would want consistent
> subjectivity.That's all I'm asking for.


'Consistent subjectivity' - not easy to achieve that imo (the rugby refs struggle to consistently decide if something relatively straight forward like a knock-on has occured) - but yes we should STRIVE for that

RACING GURU Wrote:

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> JAMES BLOND Wrote:
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> > Justanotherpunter Wrote:
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> > > What you say above is exactly my point.How we
> > > don't have the same people making the
> decisions
> > > for all our racing is beyond me.Inconsistency
> > is
> > > the the only thing that is constant with
> these
> > > objections.A centralized board would surely
> > negate
> > > this problem to a large degree.
> > >
> > > We also have large numbers of international
> > > customers betting on our racing now(it is
> after
> > > all the only place the business is
> growing),so
> > > surely we want to run this show by
> > international
> > > standards.Higher standards of integrity and
> > more
> > > consistent decisions in instances like
> > objections
> > > means our product is perceived in a
> favourable
> > > light.
> > >
> > > My 10 yr old is capable of more logical
> decison
> > > making than what goes on in this industry
> > .
> >
> > do you know how i feel as an international
> player
> > betting on USA racing? the horse wins a race
> in
> > the process he bumps another "no hoper" going
> > nowhere had no chance of beating him or any of
> the
> > other 5/6 horses in front of him, and what
> > happenned the winner gets disqualified? and
> > placed behind the no hoper, thank you but no
> thank
> > you, wont see my money again.
> >
> > I do believe in SA we have a fair system, yes
> > sometimes they do not get it right but I do
> think
> > in most cases they do, and i am certain that
> the
> > international customers is bound to get a far
> > better deal in SA than what they ever will get
> in
> > some other racing countries, as far as I could
> > determine how they deal with objections,the USA
> > system is the worst of the lot. at least a no
> > hoper can not cost the winner a race in SA by
> just
> > getting bumped and no hoper runs nowhere!!
>
>
> u always see 1 side....what if the no hoper who is
> going nowhere hangs all over the favourite..and
> beats the favourite....would u be happy then?

this is not the issue, the issue is about disqualifying the winner or do i miss read the thread.