'DEAR WHITE PEOPLE...' IS IT TRUE?

  • JAMES BLOND
  • New Member
  • New Member
  • Thanks: 0

Re: Re: 'DEAR WHITE PEOPLE...' IS IT TRUE?

12 years 9 months ago
#257516
Black majority vote for ANC BUT NOW THE ANC GOVERMENT is not delivering, hence all the protest against non delivery, ANC loses Billions of rand on non essential spending, gravy train and tenderpreneurs, but they are angry at the WHITES, WHY?

Why are they not angry at the persons who abuse their positions and steal/missuses the money, why keep on the voting for the party who do not deliver?
Black people say they have the power, I agree, they can vote out the people who do not deliver and vote in the people who can deliver, but they do not use their power.
it is easier to blame the whites and apartheid for all the problems because they can divert attention from the real problem WHICH IS

BAD GOVERNANCE BY THE ANC

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • mikesack
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 3346
  • Thanks: 201

Re: Re: 'DEAR WHITE PEOPLE...' IS IT TRUE?

12 years 9 months ago
#257522
The Drakensberg Boys Choir, what a setting in the most beautiful mountains in the country.And Hilton College just outside Pmb.
Well worth a visit these institutions, to those in the Boy's Choir; ' you lucky fish!'

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • PeeKay
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 7885
  • Thanks: 223

Re: Re: 'DEAR WHITE PEOPLE...' IS IT TRUE?

12 years 9 months ago
#257525
I stopped reading the article when they mention about houses water and electricity.........is it not EVERY time there is an election and the ANC needs/buys votes, that they promise this to the voting people?? Only once they have the vote, they tender the houses (which they did build) off to their best friends and/or give it to people (who isn't even near the top of the waiting list) that just sell it 2 months later and spend the profits and remain in the shacks to moan year in and year out that they dont have housing??? The voting ppl out there need to realise now that they are handing out false promises and not providing water and electricity, cos their parties and jet building is WAAAAAYYYYY more important than providing basic needs to the ppl that need it.

That's my take on it, but hey, it's my last post on this thread.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • umlilo
  • Topic Author
  • New Member
  • New Member
  • Thanks: 0

Re: Re: 'DEAR WHITE PEOPLE...' IS IT TRUE?

12 years 9 months ago
#257526
Hi All!

I am staggered by the convoluted responses and the way the initial article has been twisted and manipulated; I have always credited most mebers with some sense of humour and common sense!

For those of who keep labouring 'keep politics out!', it's a bit too late (and some incongruous and hypocritical) as (excluding myself) there have been numerous such spoofs posted here.... as long as they suited agendas to take swipes at the Government, ANC, blacks or even Taliban!

It also seems that the horseracing scenario is to be restricted to those who 'think and behave like US!' and monopolised by them only! Any goodwill is strictly on their terms!

I accidentally came across the article and considered it worthy of posting herein. I just added the note about a sequel in the intro for something like it as 'Dear Black People...' to put the subject under perspective.

Whatever you read into it..... that's been honest and fair; right?

There are those whites who masquearade as being supportive of black empowerment (or whatever they define); yet, they draw a line.

Similarly, there are blacks who do the same.... all claiming to be non-racists, liberal, intelligent, committed, etc!

And then (I thought), there are US who will not indulge in name-calling, blame game and even being personal but maturely discuss the article!

Gentlemen (sorry, and Ladies!)! We have a L O N G way to go before there is racial sanity in this country at this rate!

FYI:
@englander, etc....


I am in the forefront to admit that this is not the ANC most of us activists sacrificed for and I don't play to any gallery!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • zesto
  • New Member
  • New Member
  • Thanks: 0

Re: Re: 'DEAR WHITE PEOPLE...' IS IT TRUE?

12 years 9 months ago
#257533
louisg Wrote:
> wottalottashit

which race is it ?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • louisg
  • Elite Member
  • Elite Member
  • Posts: 1766
  • Thanks: 682

Re: Re: 'DEAR WHITE PEOPLE...' IS IT TRUE?

12 years 9 months ago
#257568
LOL , Zesto...

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • fogwils
  • New Member
  • New Member
  • Thanks: 0

Re: Re: 'DEAR WHITE PEOPLE...' IS IT TRUE?

12 years 9 months ago
#257747
Hello (again)

I agree with Oscar, not a thread for a Horse Racing site.

But be that as it may, IMHO, we i.e. ALL South Africans must get back to basics to get ahead. The basics that I am talking about is DISCIPLINE in every walk of life, at Work, in Politics and at play e.g. Horse Racing, etc.

If we carry on as at present then I am afraid that if you want to see the future here in RSA then just look at Zimbabwe and see where we are headed.

Remember Umlilo that many a true word was said in jest.

FARK my Dalwhinnie is getting even lower and the Wife won't crush some Ice for me. So for me tonight it is Hot tongue and Cold shoulder. LOL

I wish all SAs prosperous punting and that you post your winners here.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Sylvester
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 13959
  • Thanks: 1414

Re: Re: 'DEAR WHITE PEOPLE...' IS IT TRUE?

12 years 9 months ago
#257758
I have a black heart does that count??
When i was younger all i wanted was a black penis. But no i got a white ass one.
i date a sexy black chick .the carpet matched the curtains.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • umlilo
  • Topic Author
  • New Member
  • New Member
  • Thanks: 0

Re: Re: 'DEAR WHITE PEOPLE...' IS IT TRUE?

12 years 9 months ago
#257790
Now here's what an honest white responds in (News24) without all that emotive jargion and high-blood coating (I really admire and respect him/her):

Reaction to "Dear White People in South Africa"
16 August 2012, 08:37



After reading "Dear White People" written by Lukhona I had the same reaction to the article as most of the commentators on the article, I was livid and thought "here we go again blame us whiteys for everything."
I then sat back and thought about what I have observed in my little world.

I have recently been fortunate to move out of a complex into a free standing house in the West Rand. I am shocked beyond belief about the amount of black people that live in my road and general area, the reason for this is because we are told constantly that ALL black people in this country are still economically oppressed and are dirt poor reiterated by Lukhona. Out of the 20 houses in my little road approximately 50% of the houses are occupied by people of colour majority black. Thinking back the complex I was in of 35 homes the stats were similar. The other fascinating thing is in most of these homes there are 2 cars in the garage just like mine.Their kids go to the same government school as my lightie. Some of them even attend the private school around the corner.

I often see my neighbours at the Pn'P around the corner. WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON.

Remembering my drive to work this morning I observed a number of black people on the road driving cars some more expensive and some cheaper than mine but none the less they were cruising to what I assume would be their jobs listening to John Robbie or maybe Whackhead Simpson just as I was. The deductions I made was that seeing that they were obviously in there car going somewhere, it would be fair to say they were going to work, this is amazing to me as apparently all the whites have all the jobs.
If we go by what we are told daily by our government and the likes of Lukhona then there is something strange going on. All these black people going to no job in cars that cost money that they don't have during working hours, very strange indeed.

Once arriving at our office park I thought about the businesses that occupy the park we work in. Out of the 10 businesses 7 are black owned and black run, again shocked and confused as whites own all the business in our country. I might add that our business park is a tight community and these businesses are doing very well and some of them even out growing their space.

Now in Lukhona's article he brings up SAB and big "white" business. How did these businesses start and how did they get so big. Well my friend, someone had and idea started a business and grew it! They worked hard made sales got deals in and expanded. Do you think Discovery Health just appeared in Sandton one day because the directors were white and wished upon a star, no they built their business and the rest is history. Now I have no doubt that some of if not all the small businesses in my little Office Park will one day become big black business through their dedication and hard work. These men and woman have a completely different idea to you, they don't want to take "white" business and try make it their own, they are taking their business and working at it and growing it. They employ only Black staff and I am happy for them its their business and they are helping their people fair enough.

How many Small Businesses are owned by blacks versus whites? I would love to see the TRUE stats. I can guarantee there is more black small businesses than white in this country.The problem lies in the growing of the economy which is being hampered by the current government mailing it difficult for these black businessmen to grow their business.

I would also love to see the stats on Black Rich versus White Rich, I am sure there is a gap but it isn't as large as perceived by our leaders.What is the size of black middle class versus white middle class? I would be very interested to see this done in percentages against amount of people of certain colour.

There will always be the very poor in this country because of the mindset of people like Lukhona, once you have taken the "wealth" of 8% of the population and redistributed it to the other 92% what will there be left. Do you think that if "white business" is taken over tomorrow all 40 million people will be free economically and employed? You are sorely mistaken my friend.

Lukhona I pity you so much while you are sitting simmering in your bigoted racial hatred for white people, your brothers and sisters are out there building a future and attaining economic freedom for themselves. The future is bright for them and I fear you and those similarly minded will be left behind. Things look quite rosy , well at least in my Little World.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Guest
  • Visitor
  • Visitor

Re: Re: 'DEAR WHITE PEOPLE...' IS IT TRUE?

12 years 9 months ago
#257854
The Irish were colonised by the Brits for 850 years. Stop winging like a stuck flipping record. The Irish have a beautiful country with CIVILISED norms and a developed infrastructure and culture.

If I was a black man I would be ashamed of my leaders. Go look north of the Limpopo and see what your black leaders have done after getting rid of the white man? Bugger all. Go look at the ordinary man in Zim? Or the Zim refugee, a refugee cause he voted MDC. Why is half of Africa in South Africa? Cause the black man cocked up the rest of Africa.

There is a difference between a fair just and honourable black man and the manipulative racist black bigots that sow hardship, suffering, and pure evil among their own people in their quest for enrichment and power.

Stop referring to me as a white man with that big tar brush of yours. I am very very very proud and humbled by the way my ancestors have fought for freedom and justice amongst their OWN peopke to create modern European type democracies.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • umlilo
  • Topic Author
  • New Member
  • New Member
  • Thanks: 0

Re: Re: 'DEAR WHITE PEOPLE...' IS IT TRUE?

12 years 9 months ago
#258141
And ...die storie gaan aan...!!!!!

Dear black person
2012-08-16 13:52


This is for you, my brother or sister, who penned that piece of cods wallop yesterday, entitled "Dear white people". A mild, if racist, salutation led to an ominous end: watch yourself, white people when the masses get angry, you wrote.

Unlike you, who presumed to speak to all white people, all five million, on behalf of all black people, all 45 million odd of us, this note is for you, for your myopia which is yours alone.

Also, the ignorance is yours alone.

SABMiller, for example, is now a dual-listed multinational, yet you assume it to be a white-owned company. The company here is publicly represented by Vincent Maphai. Google him. You might learn a thing or two.

Tiger Brands, another company that gets your back up, is represented by Bongiwe Njobe and run by Peter Matlare. Both black when last I checked.

My point: transformation has been much more successful than your diatribe suggests. Why a presumably successful young black person like you should go out of your way to suggest it is a complete failure leaves me scratching my head.
What you do is dangerous for your narrative makes the work, effort and experience of black leaders like Maphai, Njobe and Matlare count for nothing. I could add the efforts and success of mining magnate Patrice Motsepe, the mobile millionaire Phutuma Nhleko, the steel leader Nku Nyembezi-Heita.

Yes, the numbers of black captains of corporate life are still small, but we are not at Year Zero. The black middle-class you decry as an indebted mirage is also wrong. Yes, some may be in trouble, but studies last year showed black middle-class people have been astute and disciplined about buying property, retirement plans and other assets. There has been substantial black wealth accumulation. Enough? No, but again your portrayal of nothing having changed is simply wrong. Do you read, or do you simply rant?

You threaten our white compatriots, my friend, that the masses will one day get angry and will come for them. If you read City Press, have a look at a piece we ran last week called Protest Nation which revealed there are more protests every day this year than there ever have been before. I think the masses are already angry.

Their protests are about electricity (non-existent, too expensive), water (unaffordable, sporadic), corruption (endemic) and housing (slow to arrive, though it's worth noting that various studies have shown the democratic state has built a mind-boggling number of houses every day since 1994).
I've not seen protests staged against white people, though of course wealth and privilege often still wears a racial face as does poverty and unemployment.

Our compatriots on the streets are targeting their resistance against those whom we elected to make our country better - our black-led government. Your analysis fails to engage in more than simplistic ways with this important fact. Why has more not been done? How effectively do our representatives spend lots of money? Why is corruption still rampant? Why did our democratic representatives make such able students of yesterday's teachers in power's seductive ways?

The danger of your kind of writing and analysis (and it is surprisingly common) is that you set up a false comparison. It is a writing that assumes there are an equal number of black and white people in South Africa and that one half is sitting on the other half's money. You lead our next generation astray, thinking there is a cargo of loot in white hands. There may be, but even if you take it by force, it will not lift our country to levels of prosperity we need to make a happy dent in our biggest problems.

As a black person, that loot is neither here nor there for me. If white-owned business (often a misnomer, as it is more accurately described as listed loot controlled by fearful fund managers) is not investing, the challenge is for public and patriotically controlled funds to be invested for our common prosperity.

The challenge is not to threaten and insult or cajole for a larger slice of an old pie. I'd rather live in a country where our common challenge is to grow the pie to employ the three million young people who would like to work.

Look up from the navel you gaze at, my young black brother, and see the Mzansi there for us to make. If you want to spend your days venting your spleen at white people, do so. But do you really think that entrepreneur Ludwick Marishane, athlete Caster Semenya, comedian Trevor Noah, diva Lira, banker Kennedy Bhungane, social entrepreneur Shaka Sisulu and activist Heather Sonn (to name but a smidgen of young black South African success) did what they did because white people gave it to them on a plate?

Go Google guy, and see how wrong you are.

Sincerely, Aunty Ferial

- Ferial Haffajee is the editor of City Press. Follow her on Twitter: @FerialHaffajee

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Guest
  • Visitor
  • Visitor

Re: Re: 'DEAR WHITE PEOPLE...' IS IT TRUE?

12 years 9 months ago
#258180
All this current government under Zuma has done is try and polarise the countries population so as to revert the country back to the racial hatred and division we found in 1994.
As usual there will follow suffering for the natives of the country, except for those connected to the elite, who are protected by the armed forces and police. Any uprising by the natives will be cruelly put down.....

Thats Africa.... about 500 years behind the political and personal freedoms, and the civilised norms enjoyed by European states.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Time to create page: 0.139 seconds