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I have just read an unbeleivable article about murders in South Africa..
The murder rate of white farmers in South Africa is 330 per 100,000.
Compared to the murder rate in Detroit which is 34 per 100,000.
It also has estimated 40,000 whites have been murdered since the end of apartheid..
It is claimed these murders will continue and worsen until whites realise they are seen as
invaders in SA.This goes for any who are not of the Bantu people.
I thought it was bad,but is it this bad.Shocking
The murder rate of white farmers in South Africa is 330 per 100,000.
Compared to the murder rate in Detroit which is 34 per 100,000.
It also has estimated 40,000 whites have been murdered since the end of apartheid..
It is claimed these murders will continue and worsen until whites realise they are seen as
invaders in SA.This goes for any who are not of the Bantu people.
I thought it was bad,but is it this bad.Shocking
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To be fair Dave there are not many farmers in Detroit 
Sorry could not resist

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scotia Wrote:
> To be fair Dave there are not many farmers in
> Detroit
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> Sorry could not resist
Thats everyone in Detroit,not just straw chewers
> To be fair Dave there are not many farmers in
> Detroit

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> Sorry could not resist
Thats everyone in Detroit,not just straw chewers
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There is also 16 000 murdeers a year in SA a horrible figure,apartheid finished in the early 90`s ? so say 300 000 deaths if an average is met? so 260 000 non whites have died dave or there abouts!!!!!
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Go to the supermarket for your veg,dont grow your own its too bloody dangerous.
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hibernia Wrote:
> There is also 16 000 murdeers a year in SA a
> horrible figure,apartheid finished in the early
> 90`s ? so say 300 000 deaths if an average is met?
> so 260 000 non whites have died dave or there
> abouts!!!!!
Unbeleivable,,
16,000 a year is staggering
> There is also 16 000 murdeers a year in SA a
> horrible figure,apartheid finished in the early
> 90`s ? so say 300 000 deaths if an average is met?
> so 260 000 non whites have died dave or there
> abouts!!!!!
Unbeleivable,,
16,000 a year is staggering
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Dave I am not sure if all those figures are correct, here is some figures I got from the internet, their is differences in the figures but it seems that that 3000+ might be the correct amount of farmers killed, but the worst part of this figures is that it do not show how many of that attacks that are so brutal that some of the victims never recover from their injuries and later die because of the injuries sustained during the attack, those figures is not included.
"Death has stalked South Africa’s white farmers for years. The number murdered since the end of apartheid in 1994 has passed 3,000."
"Just sort of 20,000 South Africans are murdered every year. Obviously farmers would make up some of these numbers.
But as somebody on the UK Guardian Comment is Free blogs pointed out, this comparison is very deceiving.
I saw one figure of 50,000 South African farmers. If 200 are killed in one year, that’s one in 250, per year.
There are some 40 million people in South Africa. If the rate of murder is 20k, that’s one in 2,000 for being randomly murdered in a year.
That is not quite right. The actual amount of farmers have dropped to 40,000. If we take a conservative estimate of 1,500 murders (100 per year) since 1994, then the chances of being murdered is still startling. You have a one in 400 chance to be killed. That is 0.2% chance.
Is that a lot?
How does that compare with a country like the UK?
The chance of being murdered in the UK is 0.002% pa. Or a one in 50,000 chance per year. Your 125 times more likely to be murdered as a South African farmer than a UK citizen in this calculation"
Written declaration on the murder of farmers in South Africa
The European Parliament,
- having regard to Rule 123 of its Rules of Procedure,
A. whereas since 1994 more than 3 000 white farmers have been murdered in South Africa, frequently under barbaric circumstances,
B. whereas the numerous attacks on farms, even those not resulting in fatalities, are creating a climate of fear,
C. whereas the situation is so alarming that in September 2011 the Washington NGO Genocide Watch upgraded South Africa from stage 5 (polarisation) to stage 6 (preparation),
"n another of the tens of thousands of horrific armed attacks against white farm families, a young South African veterinarian was shot dead in Limpopo province next to his nursing wife who was pistol-whipped. Killed was Dr Paul Meyer, 38.
Dr Paul Meyer, 38, ran his veterinary practice from a farm near the Selati wildlife reserve in Limpopo province, next to the Mozambican border.
He is the 3,035 th white farm dweller to be murdered in South Africa since 1994
Commercial farmers are increasingly leaving the South African countryside because of these war-like conditions in which they are forced to grow food. There are less than 11,600 commercial farmers remaining in South Africa now – down from 85,000 in 1994. More than one-million farm workers have also lost their jobs, and their families have lost their homes and were forced to move into squatter camps: about 5-million people all told."
"ery day there are 44 murders, 278 aggravated robberies, and 544 assaults reported to the police. The majority of these violent crimes are not happening on farms, and the majority of the victims of these crimes are probably black because of the racial profile of our population (although the police no longer record the race of victims). Our society is a violent one. Strikes are characterised by violence, so-called service delivery protests are violent, xenophobia manifests itself in violence, and political rivalry sometimes ends in violence. The fact that farm attacks are often violent is part of this norm, not the exception".
Why are Afrikaner farmers being murdered in South Africa?
by Leon Parkin & Gregory H. Stanton, President – Genocide Watch
14 August 2012
The following report is the result of an intensive personal inquiry in South Africa conducted July 23 -27, 2012.
Deliberate inaction of the South African Government has weakened rural security structures, facilitating Afrikaner farm murders, in order to terrorize white farmers into vacating their farms, advancing the ANC/S. A. Communist Party’s New Democratic Revolution (NDR.)
The South African Government for the last 18 years has adopted a policy of deliberate government abolition and disarmament of rural Commandos run by farmers themselves for their own self-defense. The policy has resulted in a four-fold increase in the murder rate of Afrikaner commercial farmers. This policy is aimed at forced displacement through terror. It advances the goals of the South African Communist Party’s New Democratic Revolution (NPR), which aims at nationalization of all private farmland, mines, and industry in South Africa. Disarmament, coupled with Government removal of security structures to protect the White victim group, follows public dehumanization of the victims, and facilitates their forced displacement and gradual genocide.
Afrikaner farm owners are being murdered at a rate four times the murder rate of other South Africans, including Black farm owners. Their families are also subjected to extremely high crime rates, including murder, rape, mutilation and torture of the victims. South African police fail to investigate or solve many of these murders, which are carried out by organized gangs, often armed with weapons that police have previously confiscated. The racial character of the killing is covered up by a SA government order prohibiting police from reporting murders by race. Instead the crisis is denied and the murders are dismissed as ordinary crime, ignoring the frequent mutilation of the victims’ bodies, a sure sign that these are hate crimes.
However, independent researchers have compiled accurate statistics demonstrating convincingly that murders among White farm owners occur at a rate of 97 per 100,000 per year, compared to 31 per 100,000 per year in the entire South African population, making the murder rate of White SA farmers one of the highest murder rates in the world.
Incitement to genocide is a crime under the International Convention for the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, to which South Africa is a state-party.
The ANC government has promoted hate speech that constitutes “incitement to genocide.” The President of the ANC Youth League, Julius Malema, revived the "Kill the Boer, Kill the Farmer" hate song at ANC rallies, until it was declared to be hate speech by a South African judge, and Malema was enjoined from singing it. For other reasons, Malema was later removed as ANCYL President. His followers continue to sing the hate song, and the Deputy President of the ANCYL has called for “war,” against “white settlers.”
After the judge’s injunction to halt singing of the hate song, even the President of South Africa, ANC leader Jacob Zuma, himself, began to sing the “Shoot the Boer” song. Since Zuma began to sing the hate song on 12 January 2012, murders of White farmers increased every month through April 2012, the last month for which there are confirmed figures.
There is thus strong circumstantial evidence of government support for the campaign of forced displacement and atrocities against White farmers and their families. There is direct evidence of SA government incitement to genocide.
Forced displacement from their farms has inflicted on the Afrikaner ethnic group conditions of life calculated to bring about its complete or partial physical destruction, an act of genocide also prohibited by the Genocide Convention.
High-ranking ANC government officials who continuously refer to Whites as “settlers” and “colonialists of a special type” are using racial epithets in a campaign of state-sponsored dehumanization of the White population as a whole. They sanction gang-organized hate crimes against Whites, with the goal of terrorizing Whites through fear of genocidal annihilation.
What is dehumanization?
The process of dehumanization has the effect of numbing and decommissioning the moral sentiments of the perpetrator group. Polarization creates the “us vs. them” mentality, in SA the “Indigenous Black People” group versus the “White Settler Colonialist” group.
ANC leaders publicly incite followers using racial epithets. By dehumanizing the White victim group, members of the perpetrator group exclude the victim group from their circle of moral obligation not to kill its members. Dehumanization is the systematic, organized strategy of leaders to remove the inherent natural human restraints of people not to murder, rape, or torture other human beings. Taking the life of a dehumanized person becomes of no greater consequence than crushing an insect, slaughtering an animal, or killing a pest.
The ANC denies its genocidal intentions. But the South African Communist Party is more open about its plan to drive Whites out of South Africa. Gugile Nkwinti, South Africa’s Minister of Rural Development and Land Reform has declared that all “colonial struggles are about two things: ‘repossession of the land and the centrality of the indigenous population.’” Mister Nkwinti is confirming the goals of the South African Communist Party’s New Democratic Revolution (NDR) and stating that the colonial struggle is not yet over in post-1994 South Africa. He is saying that Whites are unwelcome “settler colonialists” with no role to play in South Africa’s future.
The Transvaal Agricultural Union, Freedom Front, Democratic Alliance, IFP, Afriforum and numerous other organizations have on a regular basis called for the South African Government to declare farm murders and rural policing a South African government priority. The President, who should be the guardian of the constitutional rights of all the people, has deliberately ignored these calls for action.
Former President F. W. De Klerk, on 25 July 2012 during the De Klerk Foundation's Crossroads conference correctly accused the current generation of ANC leaders of cynically manipulating racial sensitivities for political ends. In our analysis, the current ANC leadership also publicly uses incitement to genocide with the long-term goal of forcibly driving out or annihilating the White population from South Africa.
This report has explained the rationale for the deliberate inaction of South African government functionaries to prevent, prosecute, or stop the murders of Afrikaner farmers. As a group, Afrikaner farmers stand in the way of the South African Communist Party’s goal to implement their Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist New Democratic Revolution and specifically the confiscation of all rural land belonging to White Afrikaner farmers.
Genocide Watch is moving South Africa back to Stage 6, the Preparation stage in the genocidal process.
Copyright 2012 Leon Parkin & Dr. Gregory H. Stanton
"Death has stalked South Africa’s white farmers for years. The number murdered since the end of apartheid in 1994 has passed 3,000."
"Just sort of 20,000 South Africans are murdered every year. Obviously farmers would make up some of these numbers.
But as somebody on the UK Guardian Comment is Free blogs pointed out, this comparison is very deceiving.
I saw one figure of 50,000 South African farmers. If 200 are killed in one year, that’s one in 250, per year.
There are some 40 million people in South Africa. If the rate of murder is 20k, that’s one in 2,000 for being randomly murdered in a year.
That is not quite right. The actual amount of farmers have dropped to 40,000. If we take a conservative estimate of 1,500 murders (100 per year) since 1994, then the chances of being murdered is still startling. You have a one in 400 chance to be killed. That is 0.2% chance.
Is that a lot?
How does that compare with a country like the UK?
The chance of being murdered in the UK is 0.002% pa. Or a one in 50,000 chance per year. Your 125 times more likely to be murdered as a South African farmer than a UK citizen in this calculation"
Written declaration on the murder of farmers in South Africa
The European Parliament,
- having regard to Rule 123 of its Rules of Procedure,
A. whereas since 1994 more than 3 000 white farmers have been murdered in South Africa, frequently under barbaric circumstances,
B. whereas the numerous attacks on farms, even those not resulting in fatalities, are creating a climate of fear,
C. whereas the situation is so alarming that in September 2011 the Washington NGO Genocide Watch upgraded South Africa from stage 5 (polarisation) to stage 6 (preparation),
"n another of the tens of thousands of horrific armed attacks against white farm families, a young South African veterinarian was shot dead in Limpopo province next to his nursing wife who was pistol-whipped. Killed was Dr Paul Meyer, 38.
Dr Paul Meyer, 38, ran his veterinary practice from a farm near the Selati wildlife reserve in Limpopo province, next to the Mozambican border.
He is the 3,035 th white farm dweller to be murdered in South Africa since 1994
Commercial farmers are increasingly leaving the South African countryside because of these war-like conditions in which they are forced to grow food. There are less than 11,600 commercial farmers remaining in South Africa now – down from 85,000 in 1994. More than one-million farm workers have also lost their jobs, and their families have lost their homes and were forced to move into squatter camps: about 5-million people all told."
"ery day there are 44 murders, 278 aggravated robberies, and 544 assaults reported to the police. The majority of these violent crimes are not happening on farms, and the majority of the victims of these crimes are probably black because of the racial profile of our population (although the police no longer record the race of victims). Our society is a violent one. Strikes are characterised by violence, so-called service delivery protests are violent, xenophobia manifests itself in violence, and political rivalry sometimes ends in violence. The fact that farm attacks are often violent is part of this norm, not the exception".
Why are Afrikaner farmers being murdered in South Africa?
by Leon Parkin & Gregory H. Stanton, President – Genocide Watch
14 August 2012
The following report is the result of an intensive personal inquiry in South Africa conducted July 23 -27, 2012.
Deliberate inaction of the South African Government has weakened rural security structures, facilitating Afrikaner farm murders, in order to terrorize white farmers into vacating their farms, advancing the ANC/S. A. Communist Party’s New Democratic Revolution (NDR.)
The South African Government for the last 18 years has adopted a policy of deliberate government abolition and disarmament of rural Commandos run by farmers themselves for their own self-defense. The policy has resulted in a four-fold increase in the murder rate of Afrikaner commercial farmers. This policy is aimed at forced displacement through terror. It advances the goals of the South African Communist Party’s New Democratic Revolution (NPR), which aims at nationalization of all private farmland, mines, and industry in South Africa. Disarmament, coupled with Government removal of security structures to protect the White victim group, follows public dehumanization of the victims, and facilitates their forced displacement and gradual genocide.
Afrikaner farm owners are being murdered at a rate four times the murder rate of other South Africans, including Black farm owners. Their families are also subjected to extremely high crime rates, including murder, rape, mutilation and torture of the victims. South African police fail to investigate or solve many of these murders, which are carried out by organized gangs, often armed with weapons that police have previously confiscated. The racial character of the killing is covered up by a SA government order prohibiting police from reporting murders by race. Instead the crisis is denied and the murders are dismissed as ordinary crime, ignoring the frequent mutilation of the victims’ bodies, a sure sign that these are hate crimes.
However, independent researchers have compiled accurate statistics demonstrating convincingly that murders among White farm owners occur at a rate of 97 per 100,000 per year, compared to 31 per 100,000 per year in the entire South African population, making the murder rate of White SA farmers one of the highest murder rates in the world.
Incitement to genocide is a crime under the International Convention for the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, to which South Africa is a state-party.
The ANC government has promoted hate speech that constitutes “incitement to genocide.” The President of the ANC Youth League, Julius Malema, revived the "Kill the Boer, Kill the Farmer" hate song at ANC rallies, until it was declared to be hate speech by a South African judge, and Malema was enjoined from singing it. For other reasons, Malema was later removed as ANCYL President. His followers continue to sing the hate song, and the Deputy President of the ANCYL has called for “war,” against “white settlers.”
After the judge’s injunction to halt singing of the hate song, even the President of South Africa, ANC leader Jacob Zuma, himself, began to sing the “Shoot the Boer” song. Since Zuma began to sing the hate song on 12 January 2012, murders of White farmers increased every month through April 2012, the last month for which there are confirmed figures.
There is thus strong circumstantial evidence of government support for the campaign of forced displacement and atrocities against White farmers and their families. There is direct evidence of SA government incitement to genocide.
Forced displacement from their farms has inflicted on the Afrikaner ethnic group conditions of life calculated to bring about its complete or partial physical destruction, an act of genocide also prohibited by the Genocide Convention.
High-ranking ANC government officials who continuously refer to Whites as “settlers” and “colonialists of a special type” are using racial epithets in a campaign of state-sponsored dehumanization of the White population as a whole. They sanction gang-organized hate crimes against Whites, with the goal of terrorizing Whites through fear of genocidal annihilation.
What is dehumanization?
The process of dehumanization has the effect of numbing and decommissioning the moral sentiments of the perpetrator group. Polarization creates the “us vs. them” mentality, in SA the “Indigenous Black People” group versus the “White Settler Colonialist” group.
ANC leaders publicly incite followers using racial epithets. By dehumanizing the White victim group, members of the perpetrator group exclude the victim group from their circle of moral obligation not to kill its members. Dehumanization is the systematic, organized strategy of leaders to remove the inherent natural human restraints of people not to murder, rape, or torture other human beings. Taking the life of a dehumanized person becomes of no greater consequence than crushing an insect, slaughtering an animal, or killing a pest.
The ANC denies its genocidal intentions. But the South African Communist Party is more open about its plan to drive Whites out of South Africa. Gugile Nkwinti, South Africa’s Minister of Rural Development and Land Reform has declared that all “colonial struggles are about two things: ‘repossession of the land and the centrality of the indigenous population.’” Mister Nkwinti is confirming the goals of the South African Communist Party’s New Democratic Revolution (NDR) and stating that the colonial struggle is not yet over in post-1994 South Africa. He is saying that Whites are unwelcome “settler colonialists” with no role to play in South Africa’s future.
The Transvaal Agricultural Union, Freedom Front, Democratic Alliance, IFP, Afriforum and numerous other organizations have on a regular basis called for the South African Government to declare farm murders and rural policing a South African government priority. The President, who should be the guardian of the constitutional rights of all the people, has deliberately ignored these calls for action.
Former President F. W. De Klerk, on 25 July 2012 during the De Klerk Foundation's Crossroads conference correctly accused the current generation of ANC leaders of cynically manipulating racial sensitivities for political ends. In our analysis, the current ANC leadership also publicly uses incitement to genocide with the long-term goal of forcibly driving out or annihilating the White population from South Africa.
This report has explained the rationale for the deliberate inaction of South African government functionaries to prevent, prosecute, or stop the murders of Afrikaner farmers. As a group, Afrikaner farmers stand in the way of the South African Communist Party’s goal to implement their Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist New Democratic Revolution and specifically the confiscation of all rural land belonging to White Afrikaner farmers.
Genocide Watch is moving South Africa back to Stage 6, the Preparation stage in the genocidal process.
Copyright 2012 Leon Parkin & Dr. Gregory H. Stanton
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Strange that not one post mentions how many blacks were murdered by the police and army and whites during apartheid. Everybody likes to forget that. I would estimate around 1.5 million were murdered.
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And your estimate is calculated how??
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> And your estimate is calculated how??
Come on were you not around that time or was the SABC news blinding you like the rest of the whites with figures. The National Party were the masters of deception.
> And your estimate is calculated how??
Come on were you not around that time or was the SABC news blinding you like the rest of the whites with figures. The National Party were the masters of deception.
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I was indeed around..just interested to know how you arrived at that figure?
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Judge takes pity on farmer's killers
Pretoria - A North Gauteng High Court judge has reduced the sentences of three farmworkers who admitted to killing the farmer they had worked for - apparently because he was unfair, cruel and mean to them.
Judge Neil Tuchten reduced the sentences of Dumisani Zwane, who got 20 years, and Skhumbuza Ndaba and Mbongeni Ndaba, who had both received 25 years, to 12 and 15 years, reported The Pretoria News.
In his verdict Tuchten said the circuit court trial judge had placed too much emphasis on farm murders and said this was not a farm murder but “a murder on a farm”.
He said they had killed Gert Rabe on his farm in Wakkerstroom not for financial gain but out of anger and resentment for his behaviour towards his employees, who were apparently assaulted frequently and sexually humiliated.
The farmworkers had apparently at first tried to hide the murder but had later given themselves up at the police station and pleaded guilty to murder.
Pretoria - A North Gauteng High Court judge has reduced the sentences of three farmworkers who admitted to killing the farmer they had worked for - apparently because he was unfair, cruel and mean to them.
Judge Neil Tuchten reduced the sentences of Dumisani Zwane, who got 20 years, and Skhumbuza Ndaba and Mbongeni Ndaba, who had both received 25 years, to 12 and 15 years, reported The Pretoria News.
In his verdict Tuchten said the circuit court trial judge had placed too much emphasis on farm murders and said this was not a farm murder but “a murder on a farm”.
He said they had killed Gert Rabe on his farm in Wakkerstroom not for financial gain but out of anger and resentment for his behaviour towards his employees, who were apparently assaulted frequently and sexually humiliated.
The farmworkers had apparently at first tried to hide the murder but had later given themselves up at the police station and pleaded guilty to murder.
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