Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe - 7 October 2012 16h25 SAT

All important draw is this morning...

Camelot likes to drop out and come from behind, so i don't think the draw is too crucial for him....just my opinion of course

Draw is very important,this field is much better than anything he has faced before and only 1 horse has one from a double figure draw since 2000..

Anyway he got a good draw in five, the Jap horse drew 18

Camelot must start fav now,ask your bookie if you can bet parimutal prices as im sure the Japs co mingle and will punt their horse like mad yins...

That is a very interesting point Bob the JAP horse will be tote fav and Camelot bookies fav, remember the JAPS made a joke of the tote so check for bargains on your fancy

This is Frankie Detorri's 25th consecutive Arc!! Good grief, how time flies...
www.rte.ie/sport/racing/european/2012/10...ie-on-board-for-arc/

Some Arc titbits

An American horse has never won the race. (Masterstroke is USA).

The run to the top of the turn is quite testing and, as a result, the pace is usually very slow during this portion of the race.

The very serious three year old filly, Great Heavens, is a full sister to Nathaniel.

Detorri last rode for Coolmore when winning the St. Ledger aboard Scorpion in 2005. He regretted the ride then but his booking to Camelot now could be the beginning of the end of the relationship with Coolmore's "enemy" Sheikh Mohammed. (Barzalona, seemingly the sheikh's #1 jock now, rides Masterstroke).

Three year old's have a fantastic record.

Orfevre is the 2011 Japanese triple crown winner.

Come 16h30, some of us might be thinking that 5/2 for Camelot was an absolute bargain and some others might think why hadn't they lumped on even more........

Prosperous punting

I think Camelot will be a bigger price on the french tote,wait until the Japs punt their horse..

Sorry to the Camelot guys....

RACE REPLAY

Quality of this years field was very weak.

Soumillon cost the best horse the win.....how do you hit the inside rail 5 metres from the line when you came from the outside cruising with 300m to go....hope de kock put his foot down and chase him,he cost de kock a lot of dubai wins....

Camelot staying in training as a 4yo,3yo career has probably ended tainted?