vaal sand Thursday -Emerald Cup -DISGRACE or FORM????????

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Re: Re: vaal sand Thursday -Emerald Cup -DISGRACE or FORM????????

12 years 10 months ago
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Did Bethpage run,could have been the one behind the ambulance

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Re: Re: vaal sand Thursday -Emerald Cup -DISGRACE or FORM????????

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Im zipping up and turning on The Ryder Cup,good luck guys and dont do your knackers,theres always tomorrow

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Re: Re: vaal sand Thursday -Emerald Cup -DISGRACE or FORM????????

12 years 10 months ago
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JustinV Wrote:
> funny how last week i had a go at the vaal sand
> and everyone told me how great it was..now a
> different tune


not EVERYONE......................lol

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Re: Re: vaal sand Thursday -Emerald Cup -DISGRACE or FORM????????

12 years 10 months ago
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rob faux Wrote:
> JustinV Wrote:
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> > funny how last week i had a go at the vaal sand
> > and everyone told me how great it was..now a
> > different tune
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> not EVERYONE......................lol


I agree with rob - price and form are not the same thing - but how one can relate that back to the sand track being 'bad', I have no idea - I still would like to see anyone that is complaining about the results on the sand being 'worse' (in terms of consistency) than other tracks, to provide the proof - until then I remain unconvinced.

At the risk of boring everyone, horses are not machines - and things do go wrong - on all surfaces in all provinces - throughout the world - even Camelot got beat :S

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Re: Re: vaal sand Thursday -Emerald Cup -DISGRACE or FORM????????

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Frodo,my complaint with the Vaal Sand is that I believe that you could run 5 meetings with the same fields ,and without any change in horses form ,have a vastly different result in each race, caused only by the inconsistency of the surface...............add to that the natural inconsistency of horses and any predictability is dead.

If I go to a casino, weather will play no part,an event will take place every 2-3 minutes,I can choose my own 5 hour window that suits ,no inconsistent objections.............so why do I love racing...........cos I still want to believe the predictability of racing exists.......if that becomes a fallacy,racing will have lost one of its most long serving avid supporters ...........ME.

It is why I feel so strongly about the regulation............it should position itself to protect the one advantage racing has.

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Re: Re: vaal sand Thursday -Emerald Cup -DISGRACE or FORM????????

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rob faux Wrote:

> Frodo,my complaint with the Vaal Sand is that I
> believe that you could run 5 meetings with the
> same fields ,and without any change in horses form
> ,have a vastly different result in each race,
> caused only by the inconsistency of the
> surface...............add to that the natural
> inconsistency of horses and any predictability is
> dead.
>
> If I go to a casino, weather will play no part,an
> event will take place every 2-3 minutes,I can
> choose my own 5 hour window that suits ,no
> inconsistent objections.............so why do I
> love racing...........cos I still want to believe
> the predictability of racing exists.......if that
> becomes a fallacy,racing will have lost one of
> its most long serving avid supporters
> ...........ME.
>
> It is why I feel so strongly about the
> regulation............it should position itself to
> protect the one advantage racing has.

Now this is what i tried to say....the best explanation how i feel.....thank you rob

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Re: Re: vaal sand Thursday -Emerald Cup -DISGRACE or FORM????????

12 years 10 months ago
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Excellent summary Rob (tu)

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Re: Re: vaal sand Thursday -Emerald Cup -DISGRACE or FORM????????

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rob faux Wrote:
> Frodo,my complaint with the Vaal Sand is that I
> believe that you could run 5 meetings with the
> same fields ,and without any change in horses form
> ,have a vastly different result in each race,
> caused only by the inconsistency of the
> surface...............add to that the natural
> inconsistency of horses and any predictability is
> dead.
>
> If I go to a casino, weather will play no part,an
> event will take place every 2-3 minutes,I can
> choose my own 5 hour window that suits ,no
> inconsistent objections.............so why do I
> love racing...........cos I still want to believe
> the predictability of racing exists.......if that
> becomes a fallacy,racing will have lost one of
> its most long serving avid supporters
> ...........ME.
>
> It is why I feel so strongly about the
> regulation............it should position itself to
> protect the one advantage racing has.


Point taken about the 'inconsistency of the surface', but then the answer should be to get the surface 'more consistent' - and not to do away with it - imo

Regarding casino's - not an expert, but imo one can't compare racing to casino's - yes we gamble at both, but isn't it a little bit like comparing rugby and cricket - both are played outdoors, but are vastly different games :S. But take the point that casino's are competing with racing for the 'gambling rand'

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