Ilha Bella and tellytrack presenters

So we had 2 on course presenters last night, surely one of them could of made an effort to interview De Kock pre races... how hard is that?... And secondly the likes of Milner and co need to get off there arses and go do some ''investigating journalism'' on the well being of stables horses BEFORE they write there crappy articles on tab website. I can think of no better job than visiting a stable early morning to speak to the trainers, or if you too lazy just pick up a phone and communicate with the trainers... Geewiz this is not rocket science stuff!!!

This subject has been brought up at least 10 times on ABC without any action from the so called experts so I guess nothing will be done unfortunately.

the article written by michael clower which is on the gold circle website is a lot more what punters are looking for and maybe hibs can post it on here or the cape thread for today...

racenet.com.au is a site well worth looking at to see the vast difference between the attitude of our journos to the ones in oz...

I agree that the presenters are not doing what WE expect of them - but maybe they are doing their jobs as is required by TT - is there any merit in trying to put our suggestions together and forward these to TT management in a more 'formal' manner - because it seems to me something more constructive needs to be done if this is EVER going to change ....

Regarding Ilha Bela - I think her MR is too high - and this is in a way backed up by Kalami's run in that K should have beaten Louvre much easier if K ran to her rating - so imo the ratings based on the SA Oaks are too high. That being said, IB did not even run to her 'more realistic' rating - so obviously needed the run - and as suggested by many, imo the trainers's assessment of her readiness should have been made transparent to punters - by both the preview articles and the on-course presenters (ideally before the first leg of the excotics). Ironically, on a line through Wagner and Glorius Jet, Ilsanpietro also ran below his rating - but that may be because he is better over a longer trip.

Frodo Wrote:

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> I agree that the presenters are not doing what WE
> expect of them - but maybe they are doing their
> jobs as is required by TT - is there any merit in
> trying to put our suggestions together and forward
> these to TT management in a more 'formal' manner -
> because it seems to me something more constructive
> needs to be done if this is EVER going to change
> ....
>
> Regarding Ilha Bela - I think her MR is too high -
> and this is in a way backed up by Kalami's run in
> that K should have beaten Louvre much easier if K
> ran to her rating - so imo the ratings based on
> the SA Oaks are too high. That being said, IB did
> not even run to her 'more realistic' rating - so
> obviously needed the run - and as suggested by
> many, imo the trainers's assessment of her
> readiness should have been made transparent to
> punters - by both the preview articles and the
> on-course presenters (ideally before the first leg
> of the excotics). Ironically, on a line through
> Wagner and Glorius Jet, Ilsanpietro also ran below
> his rating - but that may be because he is better
> over a longer trip.

They do read the site Frodo so they know what's up but there obviously is a plan that has not been researched. I wonder if Rutherford has ever run a TV station before?

Punch needs gelding and Jules is overraced and the blinkers needs to be removed.....maybe better if they retire this filly to go breed,always in-season at the races><

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> Frodo Wrote:
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> > I agree that the presenters are not doing what
> WE
> > expect of them - but maybe they are doing their
> > jobs as is required by TT - is there any merit
> in
> > trying to put our suggestions together and
> forward
> > these to TT management in a more 'formal' manner
> -
> > because it seems to me something more
> constructive
> > needs to be done if this is EVER going to
> change
> > ....
> >
> > Regarding Ilha Bela - I think her MR is too high
> -
> > and this is in a way backed up by Kalami's run
> in
> > that K should have beaten Louvre much easier if
> K
> > ran to her rating - so imo the ratings based on
> > the SA Oaks are too high. That being said, IB
> did
> > not even run to her 'more realistic' rating -
> so
> > obviously needed the run - and as suggested by
> > many, imo the trainers's assessment of her
> > readiness should have been made transparent to
> > punters - by both the preview articles and the
> > on-course presenters (ideally before the first
> leg
> > of the excotics). Ironically, on a line through
> > Wagner and Glorius Jet, Ilsanpietro also ran
> below
> > his rating - but that may be because he is
> better
> > over a longer trip.
>
> They do read the site Frodo so they know what's up
> but there obviously is a plan that has not been
> researched. I wonder if Rutherford has ever run a
> TV station before?

Rutherford is too busy hanging with the ''boys club'' on that ''whose got the biggest morning glory show''...()

But they are damn quick to say Julie is sitting out of the pre-race selections, cos she has gone to eat............you are paid to present, so freakin eat in the intervals between races...........and sit out to ask trainers on the well being of their horses.....NOT to go eat!!

PS - that denim jacket which Julie "bedazzled" herself was turning me on last night <

johanm Wrote:

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> Mike de Kock has a website. Why not give the
> stable thoughts for meetings where he has runners
> ? Van Zyl does a brilliant job and even Duncan
> Howells posts a brief but concise opinion about
> his runners. Many trainers do this. Yes de Kock
> has done wonders for SA racing, but what has he
> done for the punters ? His post race interview was
> a insult to all of us who believe horses arrive at
> the track trying and not merely for a grass
> gallop.


Johann, I agree 100% if the other guys can do it why cant he? As the biggest import and biggest thing in SA horseracing why cant he post on his website?
For him to come after the race and say the horses were having a grass gallop is ridiculous!!!! (td)

Also not shifting the spotlight away from the presenters who are an absolute joke and the newspaper scribes who are involved in a photo finish with the presenters for their kuk service they provide. Amazing how the poers that be cant see all of this unfolding in front of them otr maybe they dont watch channel 239??

now mike de kock must answer to punters what he is doing? dont make me laugh. just put the money in the big days and collect (tu)

Super Red Wrote:

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> johanm Wrote:
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> > Mike de Kock has a website. Why not give the
> > stable thoughts for meetings where he has
> runners
> > ? Van Zyl does a brilliant job and even Duncan
> > Howells posts a brief but concise opinion about
> > his runners. Many trainers do this. Yes de Kock
> > has done wonders for SA racing, but what has he
> > done for the punters ? His post race interview
> was
> > a insult to all of us who believe horses arrive
> at
> > the track trying and not merely for a grass
> > gallop.
>
>
> Johann, I agree 100% if the other guys can do it
> why cant he? As the biggest import and biggest
> thing in SA horseracing why cant he post on his
> website?
> For him to come after the race and say the horses
> were having a grass gallop is ridiculous!!!! (td)
>
> Also not shifting the spotlight away from the
> presenters who are an absolute joke and the
> newspaper scribes who are involved in a photo
> finish with the presenters for their kuk service
> they provide. Amazing how the poers that be cant
> see all of this unfolding in front of them otr
> maybe they dont watch channel 239??


A long time ago a Journo was threatened with being banned from MDK`s yard because he associated with us (td)

Hats of to the trainers that do post their chances on their website or facebook, there is definetly more money than people in this game so God bless you for not being selfish and trying to help the punters!