dont waste your time betting with wsb

@pirates:

'tried to log on to my wsb ac and notice my account has now been permanently closed..yet again no communication forthcoming.will contact the bookmakers society this week and get information regarding their actions ...'

Legislation should be introduced (since the bookies cannot self-regulate themselves in unison):

1. Bookies cannot offer open bets. They must also set their limits when applying for a licence with the authorities, not decline a bet & provide acceptable collateral;

2. Tote operator cannot offer fixed odds in compeitition with the bookies.

In that way, both 'evils' are addressed!

Punters are somewhat happy, and money still flows into the kitty!

please i ask a question maybe the bookies here can answer for me. for many many years i punt horses and let me tell you in the 70's and 80's it was not the problem to get a bet of r100000 on horse you like. not from 1 or 2 bookie from plenty. the old wits tatts many times when i take a big bet i get offer it again. now i talk of 30 years ago when 100000 must be worth at least 500000 in todays money? the bookies always take the bet back between one another. you can also go to the course when plenty offer big bets. les kourie was never refuse a bet of mine and one day in 1983 i back a horse of mine to win 300000 after carl ebb say he cant loose. les take the bet, it loose the donkey! but i had the bet! today we have example of bookmaker who limit to 1000. this is the disgrace and i think this palooka he does not deserve the licence. what he is saying is i dont want the business from you if you win. all of us are the victims we love to have the strike on horse and over time their is NO WAYS WE CAN WIN. it is the statistics. the bookie cannot loose if the punter play regular. so why does this happen with the limits? if the bookie want to provide the service surely he can take back the bets? even if horse shorten he limit his exposure? i dont now i think the boycott of these bookies is what is needed. any one who play with wsb must take his busness some where where they want it. off course if you always the loser you stay their!

The answer to those concerns is simple.

- Make a platform operating like tote.

Also the dividend percentages should be displayed (e.g. exacta divides 80%, win divides 90% a.s.o.).

The rest is for suckers.
With the present system, it is natural for the bookies to enact defense mechanisms against "winners", even though they may exaggerate at times in doing so.

Theoretically some improvization to the tote is possible: We can "close" the price, but the system automatically computes a limit we can bet, based on the current size of the pool and a fixed acceptable liability limit.

But the simple bookie system now at play is for suckers and creates all sorts of problems.
Some punters feel more at home with it, but it has many problems.

Flash Harry Wrote:

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> please i ask a question maybe the bookies here can
> answer for me. for many many years i punt horses
> and let me tell you in the 70's and 80's it was
> not the problem to get a bet of r100000 on horse
> you like. not from 1 or 2 bookie from plenty. the
> old wits tatts many times when i take a big bet i
> get offer it again. now i talk of 30 years ago
> when 100000 must be worth at least 500000 in
> todays money? the bookies always take the bet back
> between one another. you can also go to the
> course when plenty offer big bets. les kourie was
> never refuse a bet of mine and one day in 1983 i
> back a horse of mine to win 300000 after carl ebb


Well said Flash (tu)
> say he cant loose. les take the bet, it loose the
> donkey! but i had the bet! today we have example
> of bookmaker who limit to 1000. this is the
> disgrace and i think this palooka he does not
> deserve the licence. what he is saying is i dont
> want the business from you if you win. all of us
> are the victims we love to have the strike on
> horse and over time their is NO WAYS WE CAN WIN.
> it is the statistics. the bookie cannot loose if
> the punter play regular. so why does this happen
> with the limits? if the bookie want to provide
> the service surely he can take back the bets? even
> if horse shorten he limit his exposure? i dont now
> i think the boycott of these bookies is what is
> needed. any one who play with wsb must take his
> busness some where where they want it. off course
> if you always the loser you stay their!

Flash for President!

Viva!!!

-D

rob faux said it again and again.....the tote is bitching that the open bet is killing racing.....they have such an opportunity ...its frightening to imagine what they could grow their turnover to,if they offered the exchange bet using the tote....bookies would be committing suicide if this happenned and punters wont even be in conversation ,regarding limits with bookies...because they would be inconsequential...so as far as i am concerned.....the tote is dragging their heels on an issue that is a no brainer

RACING GURU Wrote:

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> rob faux said it again and again.....the tote is
> bitching that the open bet is killing
> racing.....they have such an opportunity ...its
> frightening to imagine what they could grow their
> turnover to,if they offered the exchange bet using
> the tote....bookies would be committing suicide if
> this happenned and punters wont even be in
> conversation ,regarding limits with
> bookies...because they would be
> inconsequential...so as far as i am
> concerned.....the tote is dragging their heels on
> an issue that is a no brainer

Yeah, but I did n't say the tote as a company are good guys.
I 'm talking about systems of management of the bets.

i dont expect the answer from bookies from my question about taking the bet back because their is not one i dont all ready say. this is after all just poor poor "service" from wsb. all of you that have the account their must now that you must be the loser, and if you be come the winner then your account get limit. what a bussness to have!

Tricky dicky enterprises exist in all shapes and forms.
A certain popular magazine once organized a happening in a theatre.
There were prizes and I offered one from my -then- shop.
I went there, the happening was completed, with videos-music and so on and the prizes were also drawn.
But I waited and waited forever for my winner to turn up and claim his prize and no one did !
That can only mean the prize winners were non existent persons. I was not in the know but where was my winner ?
In addition I learned the theatre owner was never paid.

yesterday after the treatment i go past holly wood vereeniging to collect some cash i win on the week end. their i see the old friend i no see for many year who is play kimberley and we start to chat. he tell me that he live in joburg but when he like some thing he drive to a place where they no now who he is to have the bet. he tell me he is limit at every bookie he has account with be cause of winning. some bookie they close hes account and he tell me some times it is for less than 20000. is it no time that the gambling board force these rubbish to garantee the amount as part of the licence>

I am still with wsb as well for two reasons
1) I can play p3
2) I can play multiples instead of Yankees

Everything else goes to Hollywood.

Having said that I am only a small punter - that seldom wins anything <

I have a friend who is a huge punter and owner but races under someones name( for reasons of his own) and takes doubles trebles and large all to comes that run into the 100,000's even into million plus Keith Ho lays then like a soldier so if you want to get on consider him, also Brian Symons is very good to the same client