Goodbye.

Somehow I feel this is simply blown out of proportion as MDK has his status and his own website mikedekockracing.com and there is no need or ulterior motives for Craig Eudey to allegedly go mudslinging, for obvious reasons, they are after all fellow KZN trainers and there is no way that Craig poses a threat by challenging any of the country's top 10 trainers in the near future.

This is really beginning to develop into the Shakespeare comedy, Much Ado about Nothing.

All ABC clanners like Craig Eudey's input and i'm sure most want him to continue posting on the site together with other trainers and we can understand the perils of posting on an open forum therefore we understand MDK and others not wanting to post here but their websites are just as good for browsers to keep abreast of stable news.

Hi All

This saga is very disturbing. It is all conjecture because NOBODY will say who said, or meant, WHAT i.e. if this skinder actually occured. I enjoy the controversy raised on this Site but then only when FACTS are given and the PERSON is not attacked.

Maybe the MAN being played is in fact this Site and not just between the personalities. This ABC site is free and available to any Tom, Dick and Harry to VIEW and only if you want to Post must you Register. So if MDK wanted to find out exactly what Craig Eudey posted all he had to do was to enter and read, he did not have to listen to SKINDER, especially as Craig E posts under his name.

The way things are going there is no doubt that a certain measure of control is needed of persons that are using, or abusing, this wonderful Site. My suggestion to curtail damages to this Site by this type of hype is to have a dual registration. To just view the post one must Register and be allowed to use a PSEUDONYM but if you want to Post then one MUST Register under your REAL NAME. Further the Threads can then be catergorgised so that the difefrent levels of Registration only allow for certain viewing.

Just my thoughts.

Fog ma man , I don't see why you think its Abc fault that someone has sniped to MDK ?

Ps the last 2 months have been our busiest in our history ,we have had to pay r3000 for broadband
overuse ,we have no money to upgrade the site or add extra functions that you are suggesting .

Mikesack, as you say I am not going to be competing at his level right now( let me get a Pocket Power in my yard though and then lets see!) so it was needless of the liar to go and try curry favour with Mike for whatever reason. I think Mike should have checked his info himself before phoning but cannot worry about that now. I am surre James G will tell him evrything now. We have always got on fine and it is not going to change anything now. Fogwils it is not ABC"s fault as you will always find idiots who spoil it for everyone else in all areas. I have been warned by many people in racing that I am leaving myself open to being abused etc but as I have said to them I am just trying to promote racing and help the man in the street who is not here at the coalface every day to see what is going on.

Hi Hibernia & Craig

I did mean that there was a problem with the people runnung ABC, what I meant was the those that post here are in fact ABC as without them there would not be a Site. Also if these people do not have self discipline then it must be enforced. I also stated that this is a FREE site and know that changes will cost money which has to come from some where. IMVHO it would be money well spent to protect EVERYONE from unneccassary insults and abuse from UNIDENTIFIED posters.

Craig I commend you on your posts and your reasons for doing so as well as all the other posters that mean good. Maybe with enhanced protection more people directly involved at grass root level with Horse Racing will then feel more comfortable to post here. Just imagine what this Site would then do for Forse Racing.

I have ,since my early days,held the belief that too much trouble is caused by people hiding behind alias's(not all obviously)as it allows this kind of crap...................in my opinion "if you you are not prepared to put your name to what you say,you probably shouldn't be saying it"
I also believe that the establishment would have less excuse to totally ignore the opinions of named posts/posters
I know this has been discussed before and I accept the forum decision but surely we could utilise one of the now unused "forums" for a members or suchlike area,restricted to real name posters..............is it not worth a try.............the only objectors would be those not prepared to be known!

Fog we do protect our posters,probably more than any other forum i know,there is hardly any bashing going on here.I find it very strange that few find fault with with one or two posts/sledging that is very occasionally posted here..

When this site becomes a place where opinions can`t be aired then that is when we should worry..

Every one has an opinion or should have,and everybodys opinion should be listened to.On this site it is peoples opinions and thought or feelings that make this site as busy and addictive as it is.

Hey listen craig I don't talk much on this forum,I ve noticed u mention mdk quite a lot example plays golf 6/7 days a week,use of vets as he pleases,swop strings for 3months,most of the work is done by the assistants ext.and then u wana kno y the man fones u.mdk is a living legend

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> Hey listen craig I don't talk much on this forum,I
> ve noticed u mention mdk quite a lot example plays
> golf 6/7 days a week,use of vets as he
> pleases,swop strings for 3months,most of the work
> is done by the assistants ext.and then u wana kno
> y the man fones u.mdk is a living legend


would love to know who you really are snapback because you just hit someone for 6......way out of the park
(did your homework before you started to bat on this thread)

Some people can eat n shit on the same plate, I am punter first and any trainer that can take their time to come on an open forum to give info on their runners to help us punters and chat with general public is a living legend imo

Don't worry if you were hit for 6 craig cos cricket is all up to BALLS anyway, be that shark that you are and BITE back

Zietsman Oosthuizen Wrote:

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> > Hey listen craig I don't talk much on this
> forum,I
> > ve noticed u mention mdk quite a lot example
> plays
> > golf 6/7 days a week,use of vets as he
> > pleases,swop strings for 3months,most of the
> work
> > is done by the assistants ext.and then u wana
> kno
> > y the man fones u.mdk is a living legend
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> would love to know who you really are snapback
> because you just hit someone for 6......way out of
> the park
> (did your homework before you started to bat on
> this thread)


You are unbelievable,why don't you give it a rest..if you don't already know SnapBack I'm sure
you will become life long friends in the future.
I thought this topic was all done and dusted,why do you one minute want to sort out the person
who offended Craig and the next minute have a pop at him.

Snapback/ZO I am not even going to rise to the bait as you obviously are looking for an arguement and do not have a clue. Been advised not to rise to the bait on the forum. I think Mike will agree that he plays golf as often as he can and he has top assistants and the top Vets in the world working for him. They are part of his team and most of the time he is not here. Nothing there is not true. Good luck to him in assembling a team like that so that he does not have to everywhere at the same time.