Durban July non stayers?

winzip Wrote:

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> forget abt non stayers,plenty no hope in hell
> horses running in this july.in my opinion only abt
> 4 or 5 with realistic chances of winning, unless
> some trainers are allowed to dope their horses to
> gv them a chance.im sure bookies are smiling and
> hoping for a trifecta of upset results following
> summer cup and met results.

I don't agree, at the weights I think there are plenty with chances and an upset certainly not out of the question - regarding the non-stayers, I'm also not too sure - only one that is very unlikely to getting the trip is Love Struck imo - especially as I don't see any real pace in the race

Frodo Wrote:

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> winzip Wrote:
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> > forget abt non stayers,plenty no hope in hell
> > horses running in this july.in my opinion only
> abt
> > 4 or 5 with realistic chances of winning,
> unless
> > some trainers are allowed to dope their horses
> to
> > gv them a chance.im sure bookies are smiling
> and
> > hoping for a trifecta of upset results
> following
> > summer cup and met results.
>
> I don't agree, at the weights I think there are
> plenty with chances and an upset certainly not out
> of the question - regarding the non-stayers, I'm
> also not too sure - only one that is very unlikely
> to getting the trip is Love Struck imo -
> especially as I don't see any real pace in the
> race

Mmmm.....not a question of pace...I see both Marcus and Strydom getting up early then slowing it down giving the no hopers plodders and range bound sorts all an equal chance of spoiling the result the exotics gonna be big....

Mr Millard snr always said a horse had to stay 2400m to win the July.

Good milers have won the July.....

Why will a horse not stay if it has won 2000m at Turfies? I dont agree with the non-stayers.....

This will be a mad scramble 400m to finish, lucky dip result.

Rowdy Wrote:

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> Mr Millard snr always said a horse had to stay
> 2400m to win the July.

.....yes when he had 3-5 runners in the field and those South American sorts that stayed all day.....July a different kettle fish since his day....
clowns have since let very mediocre horses into the race.....it is a disgrace......

it really depends on the pace

To all the detractors of Wagner.......i think this is the dark horse of the race with the low weight

PeeKay Wrote:

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> To all the detractors of Wagner.......i think this
> is the dark horse of the race with the low weight


any now has full set of alumites. Check last win in Summer Cup.
You might be onto something

Non-Stayers

Whiteline Fever
Astro News
Capetown Noir
Love Struck
Wagner


No-Hopers

Pomodoro
Seal
Astro News
Shogunnar
E-Jet
Capetown Noir
Punta Arenas
Love Struck
Wagner

Germaine Maharaj tips Wylie Hall for first but completely out at the weights with Gothic and Wild One so not for me and hence all three get added to the No-Hopers List

Place Chances (Top 4)

Heavy Metal
Hill Fifty Four
No Worries
Do You Remember (Great Filly but this will be a BIG ask, perhaps top 6 on the tote)

Winning Chances

Tribal Dance
Run For It
Jet Explorer

5021 i see you on the right track,but i would not discount ctn for the july because of the 3 yr olds he is only 1 with a chance.imo he had 2 mediocre rides by honest karl in guineas and daily news,and i believe if they turn race into a sprint in the straight then he will win.
kzn trained horses i exclude (except gvz horses because like mdk he seems to also hv the magic touch,be it epol or something else)and of jhb horses im only weary of tarry runners because he often pops up with seemingly no-hope horses to win features.never mind somas plan for july with wagner i expect him to run in the last 3 with love struck joining him.lol.

Fifty2One... my first 3 come from your no hopers...lol