Graeme Hawkins

Colin ,well written and very factual totally agree with what you say,I personally have had many issues with Hawkins and was a steward at the time when he was involved in the sale of Newmarket ,he only does what he is told and fleeces his own pocket ,stand up HAWKINS admit all your mistakes you have made and step down from your perch.

@Justin V, I'm sure Lipps also said it doesn't matter if a horse is 1 time, it matters on MR?
But I agree, ds bullshit 1 time winner vs 10 time winner bullshit is disgraceful thinking..

Mdk never complain when fort defiance a complete no hoper got in on reputation and the fact that it was owned by the aunty bridget

soodum that just confirms our point GOLD CIRCLE do what they want this is not about MDK it is about HORSERACING and how the powers whoever they maybe run the July

UNHAPPY Wrote:

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> soodum that just confirms our point GOLD CIRCLE
> do what they want this is not about MDK it is
> about HORSERACING and how the powers whoever they
> maybe run the July

Gold circle/circus reserve the right to invite runners in the dbn july,that's the race conditions,tough for the connections of tellina,jet belle, rock cocktail

They will still have a bumper turnover regardless of what is said

Ok so help me here how does Mr Hawkins say that the handicappers have no idea what they are doing? What on earth does that mean ? Isn't that a bit like racing managers saying that Scottsville is a goat track. I wonder what the Oracle would feel about that? I would be insulted. But then again what do I know. The sad circus continues . Can't wait for the reply on this forum but I know it isn't Likely to happen.

Hawkins is leading the panel discussion on the VDJ on Sunday...maybe he will give some insight.

FC Wrote:

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> Hawkins is leading the panel discussion on the VDJ
> on Sunday...maybe he will give some insight.

What time does this start?

FC Wrote:

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> Hawkins is leading the panel discussion on the VDJ
> on Sunday...maybe he will give some insight.

many times during the gallops he asked a selection of trainers if they felt the crop of three-year-olds were below average this year - I maintain that if you have earned a certain MR over the July distance then that should be the criteria or as Mr Bird points out we are."relying on the handicapping system to make racing(punting) decisions."

JustinV Wrote:

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> how many races a horse has won is irrelevant..this
> is not the racefigure system..this is the merit
> rating system..your merit rating is not based on
> how many wins u have had bout how the horse has
> exposed his ability..if the connections want to
> take their horse straight after it wins a maiden
> into gr1 races where it does well then so be
> it..the horse will then earn its deserved
> rating..a horse shouldnt have to win a maiden then
> a novice,grad,progress,allowance mr 94 mr 102 etc
> etc to prove its worth..this whole one time winner
> story is very 90s people should move with the
> times..shogunnar was a one time winner when he ran
> 2nd in the summer cup and 3rd in the champions
> challenge! people here worship the word of matthew
> lips so listen to what he says about the whole 1
> time winner scenario on the gallops panel
> discussion..it is on youtube


Ditto ...

How did the old system use to work before merit rating was introduced??

gregbucks Wrote:

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> How did the old system use to work before merit
> rating was introduced??


I dunno....used to open up the Duffs...and there they were....