English Football kick off 2013/14

did not know you were a PNE fan. I always took you for one of the glory hunters < I went to a match at Deepdale about 15 years ago to watch PNE in a FA Cup match against Arsenal. Nice ground.

Matches to be played over two legs winners go through to the Champions League proper

gnk dinamo v austria vienna
ludogorets razgard v Basel
victoria pizan v maribor
karagandy v celtic
steau bucherest v leiga warsaw
lyon v real sociadad
schalke v metalist
ferria v zenit st petersburg
psv v milan
fernabache v arsenal

fernabache may still be kicked out pending a court case and if thats the case then Arsenal will go through without kicking a ball

All wins
Brighton
Ipswitch
Watford

Possible upsets
Barnsley
Middlesbrough

Wigan 10/1 to win the Charity Shield and why not as who would have thought that they would beat Man City in the FA Cup final.

Can you believe they 10-1...:

Its their opponents that should be 20/1

hahaha.. if United were 20-1 you would stick your coop on them to win...()

Its going to be interesting to see if the refs are still going to favour them now that Ferguson has gone.

There you go again, looking for excuses before the league has even started...<

i have no worries whatsoever that United will win the league this season. They have no chance, I just want them not to get into the top 4.

You said the same last year, should i post your exact words...()

i see that Sky have employed Carragher as a pundit and he works with Neville. I can hardly understand a word he says,