Betting Champion Jockey new season

Craig Eudey Wrote:

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> FC I asked a question, I did not make a statement.
> Anthony a great tactical rider, Striker has
> patience and keeps horses going and Anton has
> strength. They are all top/great riders in all
> aspects but I would say( MY OPINION) that those
> are their greatest individual assets.


Also AM cuts horses in half to get them to win...maybe that's why many of CL's horses never trained on!!!

FC Wrote:

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> Craig Eudey Wrote:
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> > FC I asked a question, I did not make a
> statement.
> > Anthony a great tactical rider, Striker has
> > patience and keeps horses going and Anton has
> > strength. They are all top/great riders in all
> > aspects but I would say( MY OPINION) that those
> > are their greatest individual assets.
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> Also AM cuts horses in half to get them to
> win...maybe that's why many of CL's horses never
> trained on!!!


how many times has Anton been suspended for whip abuse? I'm not sure of many

I cannot remember him getting a suspension for whip abuse.:S

Hunting Tower, Rebel King, Lion Tamer , Seventh Rock and Our Giant are just some of the Laird horses Anton rode and all of them trained on - Perhaps the Handicapper or the actual ability of the horses had more to do with "not training on" than Anton Marcus.

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> Hunting Tower, Rebel King, Lion Tamer , Seventh
> Rock and Our Giant are just some of the Laird
> horses Anton rode and all of them trained on -
> Perhaps the Handicapper or the actual ability of
> the horses had more to do with "not training on"
> than Anton Marcus.


Yes keep going with the names.

FC Wrote:

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> mr hawaii Wrote:
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> > Hunting Tower, Rebel King, Lion Tamer , Seventh
> > Rock and Our Giant are just some of the Laird
> > horses Anton rode and all of them trained on -
> > Perhaps the Handicapper or the actual ability
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> > the horses had more to do with "not training
> on"
> > than Anton Marcus.
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> Yes keep going with the names.

well rather you show us where Anton was fined for whip abuse?

Craig Eudey Wrote:

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> I cannot remember him getting a suspension for
> whip abuse.:S


How many jocks in SA have been suspended for whip abuse over the last 5 years...please man jocks overstep this rule every meeting...BFH is one of the biggest culprits.

FC Wrote:

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> Craig Eudey Wrote:
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> > I cannot remember him getting a suspension for
> > whip abuse.:S
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> How many jocks in SA have been suspended for whip
> abuse over the last 5 years...please man jocks
> overstep this rule every meeting...BFH is one of
> the biggest culprits.

and he has been fined for that - You make a statement about Anton that he caused horses not to train on - Which are those superstars? Variety Club?

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> FC Wrote:
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> > > I cannot remember him getting a suspension
> for
> > > whip abuse.:S
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> > How many jocks in SA have been suspended for
> whip
> > abuse over the last 5 years...please man jocks
> > overstep this rule every meeting...BFH is one
> of
> > the biggest culprits.
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> and he has been fined for that - You make a
> statement about Anton that he caused horses not to
> train on - Which are those superstars? Variety
> Club?

This is what i wrote..."Also AM cuts horses in half to get them to win...maybe that's why many of CL's horses never trained on!!!" Iam not an expert on this subject that's why i used the the word "maybe"...but an assistant trainer to the champion mentioned the following to me a few years ago...Jooste's has had dozens of expensive horses which they have set up to win 1st time out...too many of these have not trained on.

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> and he has been fined for that - You make a
> statement about Anton that he caused horses not to
> train on - Which are those superstars? Variety
> Club?


I hope you don't make a living from racing...Jooste's best horses are VC and BRM right...Iam positive that AM never rode VC in his 1st few runs...and also BRM...can this be a coincidence???

Are you refering to Blueridge Mountain ? .... cause Anton rode her on debut and has only been beaten once on her - He also has won on VC ten times !!! So he stopped that too?

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> Are you refering to Blueridge Mountain ? ....
> cause Anton rode her on debut and has only been
> beaten once on her - He also has won on VC ten
> times !!! So he stopped that too?


Go read my posts again...i have just looked at formgrids...AN never rode VC in his first 8 runs...he trained on nicely...he rode BRM once in her first 5 runs...he doesn't have the same natural skill and ability like our other top jocks...he uses brute strength to panel beat younger horses and most have never trained on...this cannot be a coincidence.