Zimbabweans must be the dumbest nation alive
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Re: Re: Zimbabweans must be the dumbest nation alive
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Ben-Hur Wrote:
> Titch are you suggesting that the EU are more
> reliable/honest/worthy then their African
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is that why the EU observers weren't allowed in to Harare ..becoz their credentials were not up to scratch?? I'm sure you can see what Easy's point is when asking Gary about his ethnicity and also that there is absolutely no racist connotations attached to it...
@ Gary there are many Political Refugees in SA that cannot go back to Zim and not face certain death,this is a fact!! so putting every Zimbabwean in the same category and saying ship the lot out and secure jobs for the locals is not only narrow minded but an unworkable theory, we have tried it before in SA was called apart-hate..if u get my drift
> Titch are you suggesting that the EU are more
> reliable/honest/worthy then their African
> counterpart
is that why the EU observers weren't allowed in to Harare ..becoz their credentials were not up to scratch?? I'm sure you can see what Easy's point is when asking Gary about his ethnicity and also that there is absolutely no racist connotations attached to it...
@ Gary there are many Political Refugees in SA that cannot go back to Zim and not face certain death,this is a fact!! so putting every Zimbabwean in the same category and saying ship the lot out and secure jobs for the locals is not only narrow minded but an unworkable theory, we have tried it before in SA was called apart-hate..if u get my drift
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Re: Re: Zimbabweans must be the dumbest nation alive
11 years 10 months ago
Titch you all wrong but I'm too buoyant to call you.
Besides my last encounter with you and Mr Hawaii regarding Aryans bet which in all fairness was clear as crystal from the onset suggest a neverending conversation
Besides my last encounter with you and Mr Hawaii regarding Aryans bet which in all fairness was clear as crystal from the onset suggest a neverending conversation
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Re: Re: Zimbabweans must be the dumbest nation alive
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Yes ,even South Africa brought in illegal workers ,to mine the mines and cut sugar cane etc ,,that does not make it RIGHT those days are over, we have a new Government now and we are all one nation
There are many foreigners that are exploited and paid below average wages which is also not on
We have our own country to manage ,we don't need to worry about illegal foreigners selling drugs here or taking jobs from our local population I personally will not employ an illegal foreigner, get your papers in order like I have to when going to other African countries ,then there is no prob
Don't come here take some South Africans job cry about the person you have voted in and how badly done by you are and go home for DEC holidays with a pocket full of Rands
It is illegal to employ a foreigner without a work permit you can be fined anything from R25000 and up ,,why do you think this is so ,,its to stop taking other peoples jobs
If you take 1 job away from someone here their entire family will suffer as they might be the only bread winner
If we had a higher employment rate ,I can almost guarantee the crime rate would drop
There are many foreigners that are exploited and paid below average wages which is also not on
We have our own country to manage ,we don't need to worry about illegal foreigners selling drugs here or taking jobs from our local population I personally will not employ an illegal foreigner, get your papers in order like I have to when going to other African countries ,then there is no prob
Don't come here take some South Africans job cry about the person you have voted in and how badly done by you are and go home for DEC holidays with a pocket full of Rands
It is illegal to employ a foreigner without a work permit you can be fined anything from R25000 and up ,,why do you think this is so ,,its to stop taking other peoples jobs
If you take 1 job away from someone here their entire family will suffer as they might be the only bread winner
If we had a higher employment rate ,I can almost guarantee the crime rate would drop
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Re: Re: Zimbabweans must be the dumbest nation alive
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A political refugee will be given legal documentation etc I never said ship ALL foreigners out ,,all ILLEGAL foreigners must go back and get their papers in order
What is the point of asking me if I was the son of some immigrant?
I never asked if he was Shona or Ndebele or illegally here and why he was supporting Zims that have clearly Voted for Mugabe
This is crazy
What is the point of asking me if I was the son of some immigrant?
I never asked if he was Shona or Ndebele or illegally here and why he was supporting Zims that have clearly Voted for Mugabe
This is crazy
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Re: Re: Zimbabweans must be the dumbest nation alive
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Asked why the Zimbabwean government was encouraging its citizens to stay in South Africa, Mohadi said: "We've had a good education system and most Zimbabweans are literate and skilled. Our economy cannot absorb all of them."
Zimbabwe's Home Affairs Minister Kembo Mohadi said this
The South African government spends at least R90-million a year on sending illegal immigrants back to their countries, most to Zimbabwe. Many Zimbabweans, however, make it back into South Africa within days.
The Zimbabwean government has now complained about the high number of nationals deported by South Africa. This comes against the background of an apparent hardening of attitudes towards refugees from the South African government.
The story of Johannesburg-based illegal immigrant Ndadzoka Pamberi, which is not her real name, is a familiar one.
After spending a week at the Lindela repatriation camp awaiting deportation, Pamberi was taken by train to Musina, then across the border into Zimbabwe in a police truck.
While in custody at Lindela, she operated a makeshift hair salon, plaiting female immigration officers' hair for a fee. That money would later pay for her transportation back to Johannesburg from Beit Bridge.
"When you get to the Zimbabwean side, they don't arrest you because you didn't commit any crime in that country," she said. "They let you free and you go wherever you want."
Pamberi planned her return to Johannesburg as soon as the South African police handed her back to her country's officials.
Living illegally
"By 4pm I hit the road, walking in the bush for about two hours until it got dark and we started walking by the side of the road," she said.
She made it back to Johannesburg on the same day.
Malayishas, Zimbabwean nationals who transport fellow citizens' groceries and other parcels from South Africa to Zimbabwe, provided transport back to Johannesburg, said Pamberi. "When you see a car that flashes its lights twice you run to that car because you know that's the one that's safe to use," she explained.
She went on to spend eight more years in South Africa illegally, paying her way out of arrest several times.
Hers is the story of many Zimbabweans living illegally in South Africa and defying efforts to send them back home.
Zimbabwe's Home Affairs Minister Kembo Mohadi said this
The South African government spends at least R90-million a year on sending illegal immigrants back to their countries, most to Zimbabwe. Many Zimbabweans, however, make it back into South Africa within days.
The Zimbabwean government has now complained about the high number of nationals deported by South Africa. This comes against the background of an apparent hardening of attitudes towards refugees from the South African government.
The story of Johannesburg-based illegal immigrant Ndadzoka Pamberi, which is not her real name, is a familiar one.
After spending a week at the Lindela repatriation camp awaiting deportation, Pamberi was taken by train to Musina, then across the border into Zimbabwe in a police truck.
While in custody at Lindela, she operated a makeshift hair salon, plaiting female immigration officers' hair for a fee. That money would later pay for her transportation back to Johannesburg from Beit Bridge.
"When you get to the Zimbabwean side, they don't arrest you because you didn't commit any crime in that country," she said. "They let you free and you go wherever you want."
Pamberi planned her return to Johannesburg as soon as the South African police handed her back to her country's officials.
Living illegally
"By 4pm I hit the road, walking in the bush for about two hours until it got dark and we started walking by the side of the road," she said.
She made it back to Johannesburg on the same day.
Malayishas, Zimbabwean nationals who transport fellow citizens' groceries and other parcels from South Africa to Zimbabwe, provided transport back to Johannesburg, said Pamberi. "When you see a car that flashes its lights twice you run to that car because you know that's the one that's safe to use," she explained.
She went on to spend eight more years in South Africa illegally, paying her way out of arrest several times.
Hers is the story of many Zimbabweans living illegally in South Africa and defying efforts to send them back home.
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Re: Re: Zimbabweans must be the dumbest nation alive
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Poor.
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Re: Re: Zimbabweans must be the dumbest nation alive
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The Zimbabweans had a much higher level of education than their South African counterparts, at least at the turn of the century, and if they had lived in a democracy MCP would have ruled since the late 90s.
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Re: Re: Zimbabweans must be the dumbest nation alive
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Tipster Wrote:
> The Zimbabweans had a much higher level of
> education than their South African counterparts,
> at least at the turn of the century, and if they
> had lived in a democracy MCP would have ruled
> since the late 90s.
(tu)(tu)
and there would have been no need to run to SA
> The Zimbabweans had a much higher level of
> education than their South African counterparts,
> at least at the turn of the century, and if they
> had lived in a democracy MCP would have ruled
> since the late 90s.
(tu)(tu)
and there would have been no need to run to SA
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Re: Re: Zimbabweans must be the dumbest nation alive
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The fines imposed are not to stop employment of illegal workers, its just serves to raise funds.
Plenty plenty people employ what is deemed an illegal worker, these are the same people that complain about pot holes and complain about foreigners......
But the people also have so,e other things in common
They dont vote
They bribe cops when caught drinking and driving or speeding
The dodge tax
Titch is correct, its not just easy to go back. Morgan ( the challenger) was himself attacked and beaten up a few years ago. I have no doubt that many fear for their lives and dont hence can never go back.
The simple solution is give an amnesty, let the current become legal and let sa prosper.
In the uk we had an influx of polish people 8 years or so ago. The real fact is they wanted to work amd di work harder than some and therefore they became a threat.
I cannot believe that if there were 2 candidates for a position and one was xhosa and the other zimbo that the local lad would not get the job.
Maybe there are 39 candidates and 37 are zimbos ?
Plenty plenty people employ what is deemed an illegal worker, these are the same people that complain about pot holes and complain about foreigners......
But the people also have so,e other things in common
They dont vote
They bribe cops when caught drinking and driving or speeding
The dodge tax
Titch is correct, its not just easy to go back. Morgan ( the challenger) was himself attacked and beaten up a few years ago. I have no doubt that many fear for their lives and dont hence can never go back.
The simple solution is give an amnesty, let the current become legal and let sa prosper.
In the uk we had an influx of polish people 8 years or so ago. The real fact is they wanted to work amd di work harder than some and therefore they became a threat.
I cannot believe that if there were 2 candidates for a position and one was xhosa and the other zimbo that the local lad would not get the job.
Maybe there are 39 candidates and 37 are zimbos ?
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Re: Re: Zimbabweans must be the dumbest nation alive
11 years 10 months ago
We have the same problem in Scotland with the English,they leave their towerblocks and inner cities and try and seek a better life in ALBA.But they are Ignorant and Arrogant and find it hard to spell Whisky correctly so usually don`t stay long...
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Re: Re: Zimbabweans must be the dumbest nation alive
11 years 10 months ago
That's the best thing said so far Mr Hibs
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Re: Re: Zimbabweans must be the dumbest nation alive
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A friend of mine went home to Zim to vote. They had had his grand parents the wife's grand parents as well as their parents on the voters roll but not theirs. This was in HARARE and this couple is in there late 50s.Hows that for rigging Mr Umpire.
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