20/20 World Cup
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Re: Re: 20/20 World Cup
11 years 5 months ago
Frodo Wrote:
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> > Parnell needs to return to the side imo
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> 2 left hand seamers not the way to go - and for me
> Tsotsobe the better choice - at least he normally
> gives you 2 tight overs up front (tu)
Normally....but he hasnt been very tight in the last couple of games.......i prefer Parnell and Tstsobe needs to have a "rest"
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> > Parnell needs to return to the side imo
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> 2 left hand seamers not the way to go - and for me
> Tsotsobe the better choice - at least he normally
> gives you 2 tight overs up front (tu)
Normally....but he hasnt been very tight in the last couple of games.......i prefer Parnell and Tstsobe needs to have a "rest"
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Re: Re: 20/20 World Cup
11 years 5 months ago
West Indies 16/1 to win the cup after their first loss. Good value that is. They still can get into the semi final. Even with two wins they can make it thats if India win all their matches and other results go their way or simply they win all three matches starting today against Bangladesh. India always can end up losing all their other matches so different permutations are possible and the group will be wide open in that scenario.
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Re: Re: 20/20 World Cup
11 years 4 months ago
I wonder if someone fed Chris Gayle valium. 6 off 19 balls not like Gayle. I am sure he will get a move on now.
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Re: Re: 20/20 World Cup
11 years 4 months ago
Question, net run rates - is it better to bowl first and then try and chase the total down in a lot less overs, or is it better to bat first, put on a big score, and then hope to bowl the opposition out in as little overs as possible? Or does it really matter?
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Re: Re: 20/20 World Cup
11 years 4 months ago
bayern Wrote:
> Question, net run rates - is it better to bowl
> first and then try and chase the total down in a
> lot less overs, or is it better to bat first, put
> on a big score, and then hope to bowl the
> opposition out in as little overs as possible? Or
> does it really matter?
Aim is always to score the most number of runs and restrict opposition to fewest...and net run rate based on difference in run rates for completed innings...if bowled out before allotment of overs then run rate adjusted for full allotment...so best case scenario is to bowl out opposition as quickly as possible...whether they bat first or second...
> Question, net run rates - is it better to bowl
> first and then try and chase the total down in a
> lot less overs, or is it better to bat first, put
> on a big score, and then hope to bowl the
> opposition out in as little overs as possible? Or
> does it really matter?
Aim is always to score the most number of runs and restrict opposition to fewest...and net run rate based on difference in run rates for completed innings...if bowled out before allotment of overs then run rate adjusted for full allotment...so best case scenario is to bowl out opposition as quickly as possible...whether they bat first or second...
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Re: Re: 20/20 World Cup
11 years 4 months ago
Can someone explain to me how the net run rate is calculated?
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Re: Re: 20/20 World Cup
11 years 4 months ago
Mavourneen Wrote:
> Can someone explain to me how the net run rate is
> calculated?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_run_rate
> Can someone explain to me how the net run rate is
> calculated?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_run_rate
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Re: Re: 20/20 World Cup
11 years 4 months ago
Mavourneen Wrote:
> Can someone explain to me how the net run rate is
> calculated?
From Cricinfo:
Net Run Rate (NRR) has become the preferred method of breaking ties in multi-team one-day international tournaments. It is often misunderstood, but really quite simple to understand.
A team's net run rate is calculated by deducting from the average runs per over scored by that team throughout the competition, the average runs per over scored against that team throughout the competition.
In the event of a team being all out in less than its full quota of overs, the calculation of its net run rate shall be based on the full quota of overs to which it would have been entitled and not on the number of overs in which the team was dismissed.
Only those matches where results are achieved will count for the purpose of net run rate calculations. Where a match is abandoned, but a result is achieved under Duckworth/Lewis, for net run rate purposes Team 1 will be accredited with Team 2's Par Score on abandonment off the same number of overs faced by Team 2. Where a match is concluded but with Duckworth/Lewis having been applied at an earlier point in the match, Team 1 will be accredited with 1 run less than the final Target Score for Team 2 off the total number of overs allocated to Team 2 to reach the target.
Let's take as an example South Africa's net run-rate in the 1999 World Cup. South Africa's listing in the Group A points table published in the group stages was as follows:
P W L NR T Pts Net-RR For Aga
South Africa 3 3 - - - 6 +1.495 678/147.2 466/150
The columns we are looking at here are the last three: "Net-RR", "For" and "Aga". The figure in the "Net-RR" column is achieved by subtracting the answer of the division in the "Aga" column from the answer to the division in the "For" column.
To use this example:
FOR
South Africa had scored, so far in the tournament:
Against India, 254 runs (for 6 wkts) from 47.2 overs
Against Sri Lanka, 199 runs (for 9 wkts) from 50 overs
Against England, 225 runs (for 7 wkts) from 50 overs
Across the three games, South Africa scored 678 runs in a total of 147 overs and 2 balls (actually 147.333 overs), a rate of 678/147.333 or 4.602 rpo.
AGAINST
Teams opposing South Africa scored:
India, 253 (for 5 wkts) from 50 overs.
Sri Lanka, 110 all out from 35.2 overs.
England, 103 all out from 41 overs.
In the case of Sri Lanka and England, because they were all out before their allotted 50 overs expired, the run rate is calculated as if they had scored their runs over the full 50 overs.
Therefore, the run-rate scored against South Africa across the first three games is calculated on the basis of 466 runs in a total of 50 + 50 + 50 = 150 overs, a rate of 466/150 or 3.107 rpo.
NET-RR
The net run-rate is, therefore,
4.602 Run-rate for
3.107 Run-rate against
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+ 1.495 ANSWER
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Hope it helps...adjust accordingly for 20 over match...
> Can someone explain to me how the net run rate is
> calculated?
From Cricinfo:
Net Run Rate (NRR) has become the preferred method of breaking ties in multi-team one-day international tournaments. It is often misunderstood, but really quite simple to understand.
A team's net run rate is calculated by deducting from the average runs per over scored by that team throughout the competition, the average runs per over scored against that team throughout the competition.
In the event of a team being all out in less than its full quota of overs, the calculation of its net run rate shall be based on the full quota of overs to which it would have been entitled and not on the number of overs in which the team was dismissed.
Only those matches where results are achieved will count for the purpose of net run rate calculations. Where a match is abandoned, but a result is achieved under Duckworth/Lewis, for net run rate purposes Team 1 will be accredited with Team 2's Par Score on abandonment off the same number of overs faced by Team 2. Where a match is concluded but with Duckworth/Lewis having been applied at an earlier point in the match, Team 1 will be accredited with 1 run less than the final Target Score for Team 2 off the total number of overs allocated to Team 2 to reach the target.
Let's take as an example South Africa's net run-rate in the 1999 World Cup. South Africa's listing in the Group A points table published in the group stages was as follows:
P W L NR T Pts Net-RR For Aga
South Africa 3 3 - - - 6 +1.495 678/147.2 466/150
The columns we are looking at here are the last three: "Net-RR", "For" and "Aga". The figure in the "Net-RR" column is achieved by subtracting the answer of the division in the "Aga" column from the answer to the division in the "For" column.
To use this example:
FOR
South Africa had scored, so far in the tournament:
Against India, 254 runs (for 6 wkts) from 47.2 overs
Against Sri Lanka, 199 runs (for 9 wkts) from 50 overs
Against England, 225 runs (for 7 wkts) from 50 overs
Across the three games, South Africa scored 678 runs in a total of 147 overs and 2 balls (actually 147.333 overs), a rate of 678/147.333 or 4.602 rpo.
AGAINST
Teams opposing South Africa scored:
India, 253 (for 5 wkts) from 50 overs.
Sri Lanka, 110 all out from 35.2 overs.
England, 103 all out from 41 overs.
In the case of Sri Lanka and England, because they were all out before their allotted 50 overs expired, the run rate is calculated as if they had scored their runs over the full 50 overs.
Therefore, the run-rate scored against South Africa across the first three games is calculated on the basis of 466 runs in a total of 50 + 50 + 50 = 150 overs, a rate of 466/150 or 3.107 rpo.
NET-RR
The net run-rate is, therefore,
4.602 Run-rate for
3.107 Run-rate against
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+ 1.495 ANSWER
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Hope it helps...adjust accordingly for 20 over match...
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Re: Re: 20/20 World Cup
11 years 4 months ago
Huge match for the Proteas and we all know what the Netherlands did to England at Lords in the 20/20 3 years ago. Tread carefully and don't think that its a gimme
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Re: Re: 20/20 World Cup
11 years 4 months ago
chicken 'n chips Wrote:
> Huge match for the Proteas and we all know what
> the Netherlands did to England at Lords in the
> 20/20 3 years ago. Tread carefully and don't
> think that its a gimme
Netherlands are going to get smashed...as much as SA oftentimes snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, England seldom of late get close to victory to snatch defeat !!!
> Huge match for the Proteas and we all know what
> the Netherlands did to England at Lords in the
> 20/20 3 years ago. Tread carefully and don't
> think that its a gimme
Netherlands are going to get smashed...as much as SA oftentimes snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, England seldom of late get close to victory to snatch defeat !!!

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Re: Re: 20/20 World Cup
11 years 4 months ago
chicken 'n chips Wrote:
> Huge match for the Proteas and we all know what
> the Netherlands did to England at Lords in the
> 20/20 3 years ago. Tread carefully and don't
> think that its a gimme
More like 5 years ago but who's counting.
That Netherlands side was much stronger with the likes of Ryan ten Doeschate playing. A big chance for SA to boost their net run rate. (tu)
> Huge match for the Proteas and we all know what
> the Netherlands did to England at Lords in the
> 20/20 3 years ago. Tread carefully and don't
> think that its a gimme
More like 5 years ago but who's counting.

That Netherlands side was much stronger with the likes of Ryan ten Doeschate playing. A big chance for SA to boost their net run rate. (tu)
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