Wayne Agrella , go well

Speedy recovery Wayne, get well soon

Ships Gossip Wrote:

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> Speedy recovery Wayne, get well soon(tu)

easy Wrote:

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> Craig,
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> sounds to me like its a case of getting used to
> the new surface and adapting to it.
>
>
> correct, the yanks hated polytrack but for
> different reasons.
>
> USA racing is all about pace pace pace......the
> speed is on most of the time in most races. The
> same CANNOT be applied to polytrack. For example
> Lingfield the winners seldom come from the front.
> It was assumed that horses would lead start to
> Finnish most races and that has not been the case.
> Now lets look at our own Gosforth Park....that was
> a course wilth a short run in and horses won from
> the front or handy a high %...Greyville pretty
> similar. Polytrack is different.

If you read the entire press release by Keeneland, they were very happy with the polytrack as a surface per se.The problem is that horses in the US have traditionally always been grass or dirt horses so they couldn't get the top horses to target polytrack feature races as it was neither one nor the other and they needed to revert to dirt for their features to regain status.

rob faux Wrote:

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> easy Wrote:
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> > Craig,
> >
> >
> > sounds to me like its a case of getting used to
> > the new surface and adapting to it.
> >
> >
> > correct, the yanks hated polytrack but for
> > different reasons.
> >
> > USA racing is all about pace pace pace......the
> > speed is on most of the time in most races. The
> > same CANNOT be applied to polytrack. For
> example
> > Lingfield the winners seldom come from the
> front.
> > It was assumed that horses would lead start to
> > Finnish most races and that has not been the
> case.
> > Now lets look at our own Gosforth Park....that
> was
> > a course wilth a short run in and horses won
> from
> > the front or handy a high %...Greyville pretty
> > similar. Polytrack is different.
>
> If you read the entire press release by Keeneland,
> they were very happy with the polytrack as a
> surface per se.The problem is that horses in the
> US have traditionally always been grass or dirt
> horses so they couldn't get the top horses t




> target polytrack feature races as it was neither
> one nor the other and they needed to revert to
> dirt for their features to regain status.

Not about what work and the way horses work .......it is a conditions dilemma.....the wax binding has a viscosity based on melt temp and moisture content......variables that can change very fast depending on weather and temperature.......one needs a guru with an affinity and powers of observation that is in touch of these requirements and can like a technical groundsman make decissions on how to combat situations out of normal parameters.......sadly this knowledge and skill set is not yet developed locally and these track conditions will remain largely a hit and miss affair......:S

Wayne is going back into hospital tomorrow to get pins out in his collarbone

hibernia Wrote:

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> Wayne is going back into hospital tomorrow to get
> pins out in his collarbone


Taken out or put in??

The Madji Wrote:

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> hibernia Wrote:
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> > Wayne is going back into hospital tomorrow to
> get
> > pins out in his collarbone
>
>
> Taken out or put in??


In sorry, typo using my phone

Ouch!
All the best (tu)

Hope all goes well for Wayne today...

Wayne's OP delayed to Thursday morning

Craig Eudey Wrote:

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> Easy, most of the work in the UK is different.
> They tend to do longer more controlled work on
> their polytracks. Mike has on a number of
> occasions warned people(trainers) to make sure
> their horse's are 100% used to the poly and not
> over extend them too soon as being a light track
> the horses skip over it and can almost go too fast
> if the track is set that way and then injuries
> will occur. I gather there are different settings
> for work and racing for the Poly The figures I was
> given from USA were that injuries had been cut
> down by 80% but the Americans with their basic
> sand racing base did not like the Poly. True or
> not, that is what I was told.

Its the 600m mentality in this country with the exception of MDK , I think it would be too taxing on most SA trainers to actually work their horses further or maybe they just ????