Help Find' Wavin Flag'
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8 years 1 month ago
I was told yesterdaY evening that Klawervlei will be giving Wavin' Flag a new home. Well done to them it's about time that this horse got a break. This goes to show that enough public pressure forces people to do the right thing.
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8 years 1 month ago
One of the part-owners (From his racing days) happens to be quite involved in Klawervlei.
I would like to pose the question - why did it take something as serious as this to offer the horse a retirement at Klawervlei? After all this horse had achieved for his racing owners, would it not have been fitting to retire him straight after his career? He has now had to endure so much before his due retirement has finally happened.
I trust he will live out his days in knee high grass paddocks and finally be able to be a horse.
I would like to pose the question - why did it take something as serious as this to offer the horse a retirement at Klawervlei? After all this horse had achieved for his racing owners, would it not have been fitting to retire him straight after his career? He has now had to endure so much before his due retirement has finally happened.
I trust he will live out his days in knee high grass paddocks and finally be able to be a horse.
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8 years 1 month ago
m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/ret...bush-racing-20170419
Retired racehorses stolen for suspected bush racing
Jenni Evans, News24 | News24
20:42 19/04/2017
Cape Town - A retired race horse has been euthanised and another is recovering after they were stolen from stables in Philippi, Cape Town, by suspected “bush racers” before being abandoned.
One time winner Maximum Flo, otherwise known as Max, and 2014 Gold Cup winner Wavin' Flag were stolen from a private stable that looks after the thoroughbreds when their careers are over and they are waiting to be re-homed.
Max was waiting to be transported to new owners to spend his retirement at a farm. Wavin' Flag has lived at the stables on the Cape Flats for a while.
Speaking on condition of anonymity on Wednesday, a person in the search party said two men had approached the horse halfway house the Wednesday before Easter, with a request to buy two of the animals.
The stable conducts background checks and signs contracts of care with new owners before allowing the horses to go to their new homes, so the two left empty-handed.
However, later in the day, staff shouted that a fence had been broken down and Max and Flag were gone.
The equine community sprang into action to find them, circulating pictures of the horses.
A search party fanned out to follow up on any reported sightings of the two horses. There was one clue - four men had been spotted riding horses over the sand dunes in the area, but their tracks were lost.
Max's new owner peeled off with a security specialist and they launched a drone, which showed them images of two horses in some bushes.
On Good Friday, to everybody's relief, the horses were found in a green belt in Rocklands, Mitchells Plain.
Severe damages
Both horses were exhausted and showed signs of being pushed hard. This led to speculation that they were used in the shadowy world of “bush racing”.
According to eyewitnesses, the recovery team was surrounded by a fairly hostile crowd of people, leading to further speculation that the racing might be linked to gangs who run the horses for bets, akin to cock fighting and dog fighting rings.
Max was in such bad shape that his groom was reduced to tears when he saw him. The sesamoid bone, at the back of the fetlock joint, was broken and he was unable to stand properly or walk.
Both horses' manes and tails had been cut.
Horseboxes were rushed over and the animals were removed for urgent treatment. They were fed and comforted, X-rayed and examined.
But the damage to Max's leg was so severe, that he was euthanised, to the distress of horse lovers who had been hoping for a better ending.
Difficult to crack bush racing
Equine journalist Robyn Louw explained that bush racing does not have the controls and monitoring that formal horse racing has.
“The equipment might not fit well. They might not use a proper bit, or they might use wire,” she said.
“They treat horses badly and run them, and run them again, without resting them, and whoever is left standing goes through to the next round.”
Some horses raced around a street block on tar, which they are not used to.
In formal racing, there are many checks before and after a race, including the maximum number of times a jockey can whip a horse.
Thoroughbreds have a different physiology. They are considered more “fragile” and are not suited to racing through sand dunes, or on tar.
Cape Town SPCA chief executive Allan Perrins urged anybody with information about the theft of Max and Flag, or about bush racing, to urgently contact them at 021-700-4158/9 (office hours) or 083-326-1604 (after hours).
He said the SPCA has found it particularly difficult to crack bush racing due to the secrecy surrounding it.
“We have never been able to catch people in the act,” he said.
Abandoned horses have been found around Kraaifontein, Atlantis and Mamre, but nobody has been caught yet.
“If anybody has got any solid leads, report them to us and we will investigate. Our response time is very quick.”
Retired racehorses stolen for suspected bush racing
Jenni Evans, News24 | News24
20:42 19/04/2017
Cape Town - A retired race horse has been euthanised and another is recovering after they were stolen from stables in Philippi, Cape Town, by suspected “bush racers” before being abandoned.
One time winner Maximum Flo, otherwise known as Max, and 2014 Gold Cup winner Wavin' Flag were stolen from a private stable that looks after the thoroughbreds when their careers are over and they are waiting to be re-homed.
Max was waiting to be transported to new owners to spend his retirement at a farm. Wavin' Flag has lived at the stables on the Cape Flats for a while.
Speaking on condition of anonymity on Wednesday, a person in the search party said two men had approached the horse halfway house the Wednesday before Easter, with a request to buy two of the animals.
The stable conducts background checks and signs contracts of care with new owners before allowing the horses to go to their new homes, so the two left empty-handed.
However, later in the day, staff shouted that a fence had been broken down and Max and Flag were gone.
The equine community sprang into action to find them, circulating pictures of the horses.
A search party fanned out to follow up on any reported sightings of the two horses. There was one clue - four men had been spotted riding horses over the sand dunes in the area, but their tracks were lost.
Max's new owner peeled off with a security specialist and they launched a drone, which showed them images of two horses in some bushes.
On Good Friday, to everybody's relief, the horses were found in a green belt in Rocklands, Mitchells Plain.
Severe damages
Both horses were exhausted and showed signs of being pushed hard. This led to speculation that they were used in the shadowy world of “bush racing”.
According to eyewitnesses, the recovery team was surrounded by a fairly hostile crowd of people, leading to further speculation that the racing might be linked to gangs who run the horses for bets, akin to cock fighting and dog fighting rings.
Max was in such bad shape that his groom was reduced to tears when he saw him. The sesamoid bone, at the back of the fetlock joint, was broken and he was unable to stand properly or walk.
Both horses' manes and tails had been cut.
Horseboxes were rushed over and the animals were removed for urgent treatment. They were fed and comforted, X-rayed and examined.
But the damage to Max's leg was so severe, that he was euthanised, to the distress of horse lovers who had been hoping for a better ending.
Difficult to crack bush racing
Equine journalist Robyn Louw explained that bush racing does not have the controls and monitoring that formal horse racing has.
“The equipment might not fit well. They might not use a proper bit, or they might use wire,” she said.
“They treat horses badly and run them, and run them again, without resting them, and whoever is left standing goes through to the next round.”
Some horses raced around a street block on tar, which they are not used to.
In formal racing, there are many checks before and after a race, including the maximum number of times a jockey can whip a horse.
Thoroughbreds have a different physiology. They are considered more “fragile” and are not suited to racing through sand dunes, or on tar.
Cape Town SPCA chief executive Allan Perrins urged anybody with information about the theft of Max and Flag, or about bush racing, to urgently contact them at 021-700-4158/9 (office hours) or 083-326-1604 (after hours).
He said the SPCA has found it particularly difficult to crack bush racing due to the secrecy surrounding it.
“We have never been able to catch people in the act,” he said.
Abandoned horses have been found around Kraaifontein, Atlantis and Mamre, but nobody has been caught yet.
“If anybody has got any solid leads, report them to us and we will investigate. Our response time is very quick.”
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8 years 1 month ago
I am glad that the mainstream media are picking up on this story, that way it will be so more difficult to sweep this under the carpet as is usually the case.
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8 years 1 month ago
I read the Charl Pretorius article in todays citizen. The article from News 24 is more about the horses. The citizen article obviously deals with the horses but focuses more on the owners and one of the trainers. It is clearly penned to absolve the owners and the harm caused to the horses looks secondary to me.
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Am I missing something the horses were stolen from a rehoming centre what can be swept under the carpet if the rehoming centre was finding new homes for the 2 horses when stolen and abused.. Robyn Louw report and Walter Pike
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8 years 1 month ago
Please post a link to the article in The Citizen
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8 years 1 month ago
Dear Sugahorse,
I cannot post the link as I found and read it in hard print.
The article is on the front part of today's daily horse racing supplement which is sponsored by Phumelela and found in the Citizen.
Regards
MN
I cannot post the link as I found and read it in hard print.
The article is on the front part of today's daily horse racing supplement which is sponsored by Phumelela and found in the Citizen.
Regards
MN
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8 years 1 month ago
www.sportingpost.co.za/2017/04/stolen-ho...s-horrible-warnings/
Sporting Post article.
Read the comments, especially the one posted by 'MABAKER'. Quite like this idea she has.
Any suggestions? a SASSA programme for race horses?
Sporting Post article.
Read the comments, especially the one posted by 'MABAKER'. Quite like this idea she has.
Any suggestions? a SASSA programme for race horses?
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8 years 3 weeks agoOver the Air wrote: ZSUZSANNA04 let me begin by saying how grateful I am that we have people like you in racing, for doing the things that you do, always with the welfare of the horse in mind. Let me also say that I have been told that the racing community, or some members at least, assisted greatly in searching for the horses. Once found assistance was received from various quarters, and for that each and every individual deserves thanks.
Where I have major problems with this story is how the horses landed up where they did in the first place. There are lots of stories doing the rounds as they tend to in times like these. One of the stories that concerns me most is that owners of one of the two horses were totally unaware that the horse had been retired and thought that the animal was on a spelling farm to recover from racing issues. Another tells the story that the one horse was retired and moved on to a woman who very shortly thereafter advertised the horse for sale on gumtree.
Where I have major issues is it has allegedly already been confirmed that the 2nd career assessment form has not been completed. If the story that some owners were unaware that the horses had been retired are true, well that opens up a completely new can of worms doesn't it? Many people ask why racing has the bad name it does. Let's start right here, the disposal of the horses off the track. If a Gold Cup winner can be discarded like rubbish after its racing career is over, its no wonder we are villified by many in the Equestrian circles. Each and every trainer and owner involved in this tragedy needs to be questioned and either exonerated or charged. There must not be a cover up because of the high profile individuals involved.
I am pledging R2000 to assist Jenny in continuing doing the good work that she does and call on all clanners to contribute whatever they can.
A month down the road and the silence from the NHA has been deafening!
Shame on you all you hypocrites!
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