Where is MJ.........(definitely not Moonwalking)
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7 years 4 months agoOver the Air wrote:Bob Brogan wrote: South Africa is as good a place as anywhere to remain
I don't think so particularly from a prison term point of view
Are there going to be criminal charges laid?
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7 years 4 months agoBob Brogan wrote:Over the Air wrote:Bob Brogan wrote: South Africa is as good a place as anywhere to remain
I don't think so particularly from a prison term point of view
Are there going to be criminal charges laid?
Bob how can there not be?
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are Mayfair horses first timers and raced horse still be raced and then depending on them winning or placing are sold at higher prices to recoup money.
IMO all there horses should not step out at all and should be sold as is....this is becoming a mockery....
IMO all there horses should not step out at all and should be sold as is....this is becoming a mockery....
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what happens to all the blue blooded bombs purchased in France etc????
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7 years 4 months agorolands song wrote: what happens to all the blue blooded bombs purchased in France etc????
I posted before that they appear on the race card owned by Jooste not Mayfair
But Race in the Mayfair colours
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7 years 4 months agorolands song wrote: are Mayfair horses first timers and raced horse still be raced and then depending on them winning or placing are sold at higher prices to recoup money.
IMO all there horses should not step out at all and should be sold as is....this is becoming a mockery....
These horses must be sold or they will end up in Lion Parks
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A bird of a feather...
Dennis O'Kelly owned Eclipse, the pre-eminent sire of the breed and ancestor of 95% of modern thoroughbreds today.
O'Kelly moved to London as a young man where he is reputed to have duped a wealthy heiress into marrying him and absconded with her inheritance of £1,000. The money was soon frittered away on drink and gambling which led to time served in prison where he met prostitute Charlotte Hayes. O'Kelly and Hayes formed a business, if not romantic, partnership which persisted for the rest of their lives. Both were freed as part of the King's amnesty for those in debtor's jails.
O'Kelly plied his trade as a conman in London's coffee-houses and, through his gambling contacts, introduced clients to Hayes. It is reported that O'Kelly himself took in female clients. Within eight years, they had amassed a total of £40,000, enough to branch out into racehorse ownership. They also came to own a significant and aristocratic property portfolio.
It was from one of Hayes' clients, that he heard about a stallion, named Eclipse, of whom he purchased a 1/8th share.
In his first season as a racehorse, the five-year-old Eclipse had remained unbeaten in the nine races he contested. This inspired O'Kelly to buy the horse outright from his owner. The following season Eclipse remained unbeaten for another nine races.
Eclipse then went to stud where he sired 930 colts and fillies over 17 years. Amongst the best of them were Young Eclipse and Serjeant, who enhanced Eclipse's stud reputation by winning early renewals of the Derby under O'Kelly's ownership. O'Kelly had narrowly missed out on winning the very first Derby with another son of Eclipse, Boudrow.
summarised from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_O%27Kelly
Dennis O'Kelly owned Eclipse, the pre-eminent sire of the breed and ancestor of 95% of modern thoroughbreds today.
O'Kelly moved to London as a young man where he is reputed to have duped a wealthy heiress into marrying him and absconded with her inheritance of £1,000. The money was soon frittered away on drink and gambling which led to time served in prison where he met prostitute Charlotte Hayes. O'Kelly and Hayes formed a business, if not romantic, partnership which persisted for the rest of their lives. Both were freed as part of the King's amnesty for those in debtor's jails.
O'Kelly plied his trade as a conman in London's coffee-houses and, through his gambling contacts, introduced clients to Hayes. It is reported that O'Kelly himself took in female clients. Within eight years, they had amassed a total of £40,000, enough to branch out into racehorse ownership. They also came to own a significant and aristocratic property portfolio.
It was from one of Hayes' clients, that he heard about a stallion, named Eclipse, of whom he purchased a 1/8th share.
In his first season as a racehorse, the five-year-old Eclipse had remained unbeaten in the nine races he contested. This inspired O'Kelly to buy the horse outright from his owner. The following season Eclipse remained unbeaten for another nine races.
Eclipse then went to stud where he sired 930 colts and fillies over 17 years. Amongst the best of them were Young Eclipse and Serjeant, who enhanced Eclipse's stud reputation by winning early renewals of the Derby under O'Kelly's ownership. O'Kelly had narrowly missed out on winning the very first Derby with another son of Eclipse, Boudrow.
summarised from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_O%27Kelly
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