Possible bad news for SAF Bloodstock industry

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Re: Possible bad news for SAF Bloodstock industry

7 years 2 weeks ago
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Don if Bob says verified its normally just that, you should have learned that by now on this site, however either way I still stand by my statement above mate.
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Re: Possible bad news for SAF Bloodstock industry

7 years 2 weeks ago
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You would expect something of this magnitude to have a press release.

Or does it just get ignored until they inform SA racing that " we just caused a major disaster for SA racing "

Possibly there is a critical action plan to correct?

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7 years 2 weeks ago - 7 years 2 weeks ago
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The sites that I use for pedigree analysis although they are overseas websites, our horses come up. This means it's been captured albeit maybe from the Breeders themselves. Won't it just be transferring data from the Breeders to the South African stud book ?

Another thing is that the Darley website gives you hypothetical matings with their stallions which also shows horses with similar pedigrees. Fillies that are currently racing in South Africa that I have enetred all appear in this website so far.

So I what I assume is that South African stud book is not being updated.
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Re: Possible bad news for SAF Bloodstock industry

7 years 2 weeks ago
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As someone who reads the weekly NHRA reports on changes registration, index, supplements, etc I cant imagine this is anything more than just slack oversight . The records are most likely all there, just nobody has bothered to collate into a required coherent report because of ignorance or shirking of their responsibilities.
There will be lots of blame shifting and some poor sod will end up having to work their ass off trying to fix the problem, while the original incompetent sits idly by I'm sure.
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Re: Possible bad news for SAF Bloodstock industry

7 years 2 weeks ago
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Yep I'm sure you guys are spot on however when you have nearly a monopoly in the industry one expects absolute 100% attention to detail as they expect from us.

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Re: Possible bad news for SAF Bloodstock industry

7 years 2 weeks ago - 7 years 2 weeks ago
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One only hopes that those apathetic (that's putting it mildly) breeders, trainers, owners and other stakeholders, who for years have sat idly by and allowed the rape and capture of horseracing to take place without so much as a whimper, bar having a go at and discrediting those few critics who spoke out over the past decade, will find their voices and do something about this.
In the meantime you can expect Barends to try cover his ass by outsourcing, at great cost, the task to others to patch over his ineptness, before the deadline day arrives.
Let's hope that it's not too late.
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Re: Possible bad news for SAF Bloodstock industry

6 years 8 months ago
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6 years 8 months ago
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Over the Air wrote: If this is true, the implications are catastrophic for the industry. It is clear that the workings of the NHRA have become shambolic and this is not a surprise given the appointment of a change agent to lead an organisation of which he has no background in and no experience in. Any normal individual in this situation would covet his staff who have experience and who could guide him. Not Lyndon. He has been on a crusade to get his Employment Equity figures correct, and this has come at a massive price. The exiting of white personnel with the necessary experience and replacing them with people of colour without the necessary experience, without giving proper training and hands-on time has come to bite him, and bite him hard. He is also apparently also dictatorial and its his way or the highway. He also is said to give intense management input to certain individuals if you get my drift and these individuals never have to stand in the Q. A short time back Judy was forced out with her years of experience, now Samantha has gone the same route. Both were marginalised. This is a catastrophe created by Barends.

My question is what are the NHRA board going to do about this? The times are right for a vote of no confidence in Barends and his exit is warranted to save the sinking ship. If I were a breeder I would be demanding action. My livelihood is being seriously threatened by a politically appointed incompetent.

Love him or hate him, Over the Air is usually spot on with his info and analysis.
Finally a breeder (and life member of the NHA), Dr. Marianne Thimpson, has come forward publicly and demanded answers from NHA Chairman and Barends' travel buddy, Ken Truter, about this, having previously suggested that he and his Board do the honourable thing and resign after the Barends' debacle.
What is alarming (but not surprising any more) is the total disdain and disregard for colour holders, breeders, members, stakeholders and racing media shown by the NHA. Silence and burying the head in the sand won't make this shambles go away.
Time for a vote of no confidence in Ken and his Board methinks !

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Re: Possible bad news for SAF Bloodstock industry

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naresh wrote: The sites that I use for pedigree analysis although they are overseas websites, our horses come up. This means it's been captured albeit maybe from the Breeders themselves. Won't it just be transferring data from the Breeders to the South African stud book ?

Another thing is that the Darley website gives you hypothetical matings with their stallions which also shows horses with similar pedigrees. Fillies that are currently racing in South Africa that I have entered all appear in this website so far.

So I what I assume is that South African stud book is not being updated.

......more recently I have had difficulty in finding the progeny of quite a number of imported mares/dams on both International Pedigree sites and the NHRA mare supplement site.....obviously something very wrong and it needs to be explained and then rectified immediately....:angry:

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Re: Possible bad news for SAF Bloodstock industry

6 years 8 months ago
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I`m sure they had to had there stuff in order by the end of this month... Hearing they have probably just done enough to avoid relegation(fingers crossed)

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Re: Possible bad news for SAF Bloodstock industry

6 years 8 months ago
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Ken Truter must be like KIng Henry "who will rid me of this meddlesome VET"
Or something similar
Dr T is not going to go to the stake or was Thomas beheaded?
Many other breeders and trainers will tell the same story
The Stud book division is non existent
A huge problem and will take some serious daily work to get back
LIke the S A Postal service

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Re: Possible bad news for SAF Bloodstock industry

6 years 3 months ago
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Pedigreequery is the site that I use for breeding analysis. So far none of current 2yos I typed in appears. Oh dear. Deadline is coming soon!

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