RA Election
- Tigershark
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Re: RA Election
6 years 8 months ago
Until there is meaningful change to the leadership in racing and no more conflict of interest positions there will be no change. There are more owners getting out than going into racing......
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Re: RA Election
6 years 8 months ago
Hi guys I have been having a few meetings with Rob over the last couple of months where i posted my trip to Tellytrack and comments on the best way forward for the "punters" the social media is busy with Rob Scott’s resignation from the RA. We had a few frank discussions on the best way forward for racing .
I know Rob will be the first to acknowledge that he may not be everyone’s cup of tea over the years but i did establish he has been a considerable contributor to racing and owned many horses with his late brother and uncle. In his time at the RA any remuneration received were donated to the horse fund. As head of media Rob felt there was never conflict as Tellytrack represented the industry not just Phumelela, in his new capacity I am sure he will be focused on improving service and growing Betting revenue which i highlighted that tote discrepancy were a major concern for the punters!
It is my intention to meet Rob again soon and feel its time for racing to have a positive injection after all the drama we have experienced over the last couple of years .
Good punting
I know Rob will be the first to acknowledge that he may not be everyone’s cup of tea over the years but i did establish he has been a considerable contributor to racing and owned many horses with his late brother and uncle. In his time at the RA any remuneration received were donated to the horse fund. As head of media Rob felt there was never conflict as Tellytrack represented the industry not just Phumelela, in his new capacity I am sure he will be focused on improving service and growing Betting revenue which i highlighted that tote discrepancy were a major concern for the punters!
It is my intention to meet Rob again soon and feel its time for racing to have a positive injection after all the drama we have experienced over the last couple of years .
Good punting
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- Muhtiman
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Re: RA Election
6 years 8 months ago
.....Fat Boy was once a a good cup of tea....then sullied by association with those and the latest sectional timing debacle.....birds.... feathers .....all stuck away together.....:oops:
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Re: RA Election
6 years 8 months ago
Can anyone answer the following
We have the nominations
Lets say ABCD
The vote goes to A and B
Then B withdraws his nomination
Does then C ( with the 3rd highest vote) join A
Or does the voters who voted for B get a chance to change their vote ?
We have the nominations
Lets say ABCD
The vote goes to A and B
Then B withdraws his nomination
Does then C ( with the 3rd highest vote) join A
Or does the voters who voted for B get a chance to change their vote ?
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Re: RA Election
6 years 8 months ago
Dave in my opinion if Rob Scott was elected then the right thing to do is allow Mike de Kock to keep his seat, and rerun the election for the remaining seat between the remaining candidates. To give the seat to the 3rd placed finisher would be a flawed logic because then you have effectively stripped everyone who voted for Scott of their right to chose a "live" candidate.
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6 years 8 months ago
Thank you makes sense and is fair, not sure if there is an official announcement from RA
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Re: RA Election
6 years 8 months ago - 6 years 8 months ago
Just highlighting that its common sense in my opinion, and not an official line.
I get the feeling that a breeze of change is starting to blow through racings structures and hopefully will herald the start to an end to cronyism and put people in power who are more interested in racing than their own pockets/egos
I get the feeling that a breeze of change is starting to blow through racings structures and hopefully will herald the start to an end to cronyism and put people in power who are more interested in racing than their own pockets/egos
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- Tigershark
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Re: RA Election
6 years 8 months ago
Dave, I have met and enjoy Rob however the idea that there was no conflict between Tellytrack and Phumelela beggars belief however this is exactly what people get upset about. When those who have allowed basic business integrity to be clouded they then try and convince other people that it is ok. The latest example being the GC Chairperson re-assuring everyone that the conflicted people at GC are managing the situation well.
Once again, there are more owners than you think getting out of racing for this very reason. Compromised, conflicted people deriving a living while mismanaging and industry. My money is not deserved by such people.
Once again, there are more owners than you think getting out of racing for this very reason. Compromised, conflicted people deriving a living while mismanaging and industry. My money is not deserved by such people.
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Re: RA Election
6 years 8 months ago
Thanks Tiger i am sure there is a lot of politics and wheeling and dealing behind the scenes that i am not privy to?
My interpretation was that Rob was given a new post with phum to look after betting as well as TT at the same time he was going for the RA job and decided to step down.
My interpretation might be wrong but i would agree that the RA should be devorsed from Phum as one should be fighting for owners and Phum trying to keep money (for want of a better word)
I am aware they have been close during the Jooste era and maybe its time to correct the past mistakes ?
My interpretation was that Rob was given a new post with phum to look after betting as well as TT at the same time he was going for the RA job and decided to step down.
My interpretation might be wrong but i would agree that the RA should be devorsed from Phum as one should be fighting for owners and Phum trying to keep money (for want of a better word)
I am aware they have been close during the Jooste era and maybe its time to correct the past mistakes ?
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Re: RA Election
6 years 8 months ago
.....there are fingers and there are pies....but always same fingers...... in all the pies....:S
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Re: RA Election
6 years 8 months ago
Dave, this is not about Rob per say but what continues to happen as a rule in racing management.
When an industry cannot separate conflict in the business management of an industry then how could you ever arrive at an equitable or best case scenario?
The following structures should always meet to drive the way forward but never have people with cross-over functions;
Operators
Owners
Trainers
Breeders
Punters
Media
Regulators
Jockeys
These are business basics in any ethical environment but if people believe that they have solved the ethics of conflict then they should be defending State Capture currently.
When an industry cannot separate conflict in the business management of an industry then how could you ever arrive at an equitable or best case scenario?
The following structures should always meet to drive the way forward but never have people with cross-over functions;
Operators
Owners
Trainers
Breeders
Punters
Media
Regulators
Jockeys
These are business basics in any ethical environment but if people believe that they have solved the ethics of conflict then they should be defending State Capture currently.
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Re: RA Election
6 years 8 months ago
Dave Scott, tell us about yours and your namesake’s “frank discussions on the best way forward for Racing” or does that also fall under the “confidentiality” category ?
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