USA next President Donald or Joe?

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Read this this morning - relates to yesterday US time:

Between 3:30-4:30AM, they “ found” 140,000 mail in ballots for Biden in Wisconsin.
Between 3:30-5:00AM, they “ found” 200,000 mail in ballots for Biden in Michigan.
Between 2:00-4:00AM, they “ found” 1,000,000 mail in ballots in Pennsylvania.

Most for Biden. Minimal for Trump.

This should draw some skepticism especially when it is supposedly mostly mail-in ballots...people from different areas are all not going to be of like mind to produce that result...

Welcome to the Peoples Republic of America...... soon to have its first female president.... under puppet master Bernie.

Bernie Sanders may be an avowed socialist but he does enjoy the trappings of capitalism...in the lead as the Democratic nominee in 2016 and 2020 and stepped aside for a more "tolerable" candidate in exchange for material things...

This is the thing about the politburo and proletariat...the politburo live large, the proletariat get freebies (just enough to survive) and eventually the money runs out as no-one is willing to put in the endeavour required to build and grow things and contribute more taxes to keep up with appeasing the masses...

The Democrats could have won fairly by having policies that honestly appealed to the majority or putting up a candidate that had done more in the more recent past than little in 47 years in public office to benefit himself and his family...

In the Democrat controlled states, now the subject of disputes, they could have been smarter in how they bumped up the numbers for QPPJoe...allocate a reasonable amount (not close to zero) to DJT while still clawing back the difference and keep turnout ratios (not more than 90% in areas that are historically 60%) reasonable...I guess their window was small so, in rushing the job, they were going to make mistakes...

In the end, the majority in the US, as with everywhere else, get the rulers they deserve...too many naively make the mistake of thinking that their elected representatives are there to serve them...well, my simple question would be: how many elected representatives have actually carried through with the majority of what they promised to get the vote?

All the best to all Clanners for today...stay safe and healthy...was interesting reading the posts of fellow Clanners to try to understand the whys of your thinking...I want to repeat what @cnc put out to the Craig twins yesterday...we may hold differing views but, so long as we do it in a respectful and civil way, no harm done and we are better for the different perspectives we are exposed to...

TNaicker wrote: Read this this morning - relates to yesterday US time:

Between 3:30-4:30AM, they “ found” 140,000 mail in ballots for Biden in Wisconsin.
Between 3:30-5:00AM, they “ found” 200,000 mail in ballots for Biden in Michigan.
Between 2:00-4:00AM, they “ found” 1,000,000 mail in ballots in Pennsylvania.

Most for Biden. Minimal for Trump.

This should draw some skepticism especially when it is supposedly mostly mail-in ballots...people from different areas are all not going to be of like mind to produce that result...

Guys, the word FOUND is not the correct word to use. Nobody went around looking, knocking on doors or searching under bridges, etc looking for ballots. The ballots were always at the tallying points/centers, they just needed to be opened, verified and then counted. These mail-in ballots were only counted after the walk-in votes were tallied, and the majority are Democrat votes because of the pandemic, they chose to cast to ballots this way. Take the word FOUND out of your mind, this is obviously coming from the Trump camp or Fox News. There is nothing illegal taking place. All the court appeals is just a delaying tactic - just delaying the inevitable, but let it play out.

Amazing the man who hates "Fake News" is the biggest proponent of it - Where have you ever heard a President saying Stop the count I am winning - Then knowing full well Covid changed the way people voted he then cries fraud at elections - What a bad loser - Like the punter who says "stop the race so I collect" when his horse jumps first in the Gold Cup with 3100m to go- One thing I despise in all spheres of life is a BAD LOSER!

I do agree that the word "found" is misleading...allocated / added to QPPJoe's total is more accurate...

The concern is that during the time-frames mentioned, Republican observers were not allowed and more than 95% of the numbers mentioned were allocated to QPPJoe's total...

The screenshot I mentioned earlier...138000 increase in QPPJoe's total in Michigan and 0 change in DJT's' total...can anyone explain to me how all votes in that results update were solely for QPPJoe?? That's all I'm asking...if they are supposedly mail-in ballots, likely from a few areas in a state, how does one achieve such homogeneity of outcome? I can understand that a particular voting station may have almost 100% for a particular candidate but unlikely, over various voting districts, to all be almost 100%...

I'm going to speculate that the physical ballots don't match the count or, if people are asked to come forward to verify the validity of their mail in ballot, the Democrats are not going to pitch up to verify that it is their ballot...

It's sad that each time Trump gets agitated, a new conspiracy comes out their camp to de-legitimize the process. Not surprising the Trump supporters lap up everything, a sign of being insecure, like the leader.

Read and saw something scary, the Administration erected a fence around the WH in anticipation of violence. What "they" are saying, if we win the election, we think the Left will insight violence by not accepting the outcome of the election. You need to ask yourself, who erected the fence - the Left or the Right? Instill fear, divide and conquer, Trump will go to any length to create chaos.

On a lighter note, i think the fence was erected so the winners can't get in, to get him out if he loses.

Here's a camp clutching at straws.

Trump supporters carrying semi-automatic weapons around counting centres in Arizona trying to intimidate counters. This is going to turn ugly if Biden takes Arizona which will mean he wins. Trump is not going to go away without a fight as he knows what’s waiting for him and that is thousands of law suits.

TNaicker wrote: I do agree that the word "found" is misleading...allocated / added to QPPJoe's total is more accurate...

The concern is that during the time-frames mentioned, Republican observers were not allowed and more than 95% of the numbers mentioned were allocated to QPPJoe's total...

The screenshot I mentioned earlier...138000 increase in QPPJoe's total in Michigan and 0 change in DJT's' total...can anyone explain to me how all votes in that results update were solely for QPPJoe?? That's all I'm asking...if they are supposedly mail-in ballots, likely from a few areas in a state, how does one achieve such homogeneity of outcome? I can understand that a particular voting station may have almost 100% for a particular candidate but unlikely, over various voting districts, to all be almost 100%...

I'm going to speculate that the physical ballots don't match the count or, if people are asked to come forward to verify the validity of their mail in ballot, the Democrats are not going to pitch up to verify that it is their ballot...

TN, if Trump was leading and on the cusp of being re-elected, do you think any of this would be taking place/happening? They are trying to find fault with everything, and that should tell everyone all you need to know.This was always the game-plan if things are not going their way. Oddly enough, all this is allegations, nothing has be proven, whatever the illegality is. Most recounts, if errors are found, which there will be, are minimal at best, not in the thousands, which is what the Trump camp are looking for.

Desperate times for a desperate man. He will now say and do anything to remain president which is dangerous. He is throwing democracy out of the window. If this was happening in an election in any other country he would be onto to it and condemning it unless it was Russia off course

If the Democrats were behind, they would also do the same if they took their guidance from the polls indicating an easy win...even @cnc said that DJT "couldn't" be the "real winner" and hasn't answered why...

No-one likes to lose in questionable circumstances and, if I win, I want it untarnished...in the end, no-one really wins if it is disputed or tainted any way...

The Democrats have done an All Blacks...they think they are so fabulous with their policies (tactics) and candidates (players) but still resort to questionable practices to win... )