Got the Greenlight - MR Appeal
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4 years 1 month agoBob Brogan wrote: Cochrane, must admit in having same thoughts about GTG not getting home... He might be a stronger 4yo, but i feel he looked the winner last year and was outstayed?
Bob you can’t be referring to the July because then GtG ‘out stayed’ GD, DIA, It’s my Turn, RB and plenty more without stamina doubts.
The 4yr old winner Belgarion was carrying the same weight as the 3yr old.
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4 years 1 month agoCochrane wrote:Over the Air wrote: Ridiculous suggestion. What I would like is for Cape horses to have a relatively fair comparison to Gauteng horses. If an acceptable line horse can not be found then a fixed penalty for winning races according to grade. Without much thought maybe gr3 = 1 Gr2 =2 Gr1. I know it has a Race figure type working but there can not be a horse coming into the countries top race having won 2 Gr1 and not getting any type of sanction for doing so. When comparing Got the green Lights MR to Golden Ducat and observing these two horses H2H races, this makes absolutely no sense and is unfair in the extreme
I’ve made this point several times on this site and even on this thread, it’s really all confusing.
Merit ratings are there to measure how good a horse is relative to other horses not how many graded wins the horse has had. However, there are many graded races which do have weight structures conditional to graded races won which caters for the “unfairness” above. I, and the industry, want to know how good a horse is relative to others, don’t cloud it with smoke.
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4 years 1 month agoFrodo wrote: Ito GtG staying - for the reasons Cochrane mentions, I do lean towards him staying, but in my mind there still is some doubt - as Bob says he looked a winner last year in the July and also in the Derby and did not quite get home
He ran past everyone in the July and was only beaten by the 4yr old carrying he same weight as him.
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4 years 1 month agoCochrane wrote:Bob Brogan wrote: Cochrane, must admit in having same thoughts about GTG not getting home... He might be a stronger 4yo, but i feel he looked the winner last year and was outstayed?
Bob you can’t be referring to the July because then GtG ‘out stayed’ GD, DIA, It’s my Turn, RB and plenty more without stamina doubts.
The 4yr old winner Belgarion was carrying the same weight as the 3yr old.
Not arguing, this is a discussion forum where all opinions are welcome..
IMO he looked the winner and failed to finish the race off
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4 years 1 month agoMac wrote:Cochrane wrote:Over the Air wrote: Ridiculous suggestion. What I would like is for Cape horses to have a relatively fair comparison to Gauteng horses. If an acceptable line horse can not be found then a fixed penalty for winning races according to grade. Without much thought maybe gr3 = 1 Gr2 =2 Gr1. I know it has a Race figure type working but there can not be a horse coming into the countries top race having won 2 Gr1 and not getting any type of sanction for doing so. When comparing Got the green Lights MR to Golden Ducat and observing these two horses H2H races, this makes absolutely no sense and is unfair in the extreme
I’ve made this point several times on this site and even on this thread, it’s really all confusing.
Merit ratings are there to measure how good a horse is relative to other horses not how many graded wins the horse has had. However, there are many graded races which do have weight structures conditional to graded races won which caters for the “unfairness” above. I, and the industry, want to know how good a horse is relative to others, don’t cloud it with smoke.
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Mac WFA is the fairest way of allowing the cream to get to the top. Pure WFA regardless of race record.
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4 years 1 month agoCochrane wrote:Frodo wrote: Ito GtG staying - for the reasons Cochrane mentions, I do lean towards him staying, but in my mind there still is some doubt - as Bob says he looked a winner last year in the July and also in the Derby and did not quite get home
He ran past everyone in the July and was only beaten by the 4yr old carrying he same weight as him.
How does the song go .... You may be right, or ....:dry:
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4 years 1 month ago
Bob salute you have indeed have more patience than me
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