PE TODAY - 2 OCTOBER 2009

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15 years 8 months ago
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Okay. We must believe one way or another that the horse has improved beyond recognition overnight. BTW, times are hugely influenced by weather and going conditions and can mislead greatly if taken in isolation.

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Re: Re: PE TODAY - 2 OCTOBER 2009

15 years 8 months ago
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His time of 56.15(if accurate) is quick,so you could be correct,but 10 points for his win just seems excessive.

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Re: Re: PE TODAY - 2 OCTOBER 2009

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Bandol broke the course record when winning his maiden at Fairview,and I subsequently made him a good thing next time out.He won,but literally fell across the line against a moderate bunch.The PE tracks have been running quick of late(obviously the track conditions today will change that) and times in isolation(as Magic says) are a dangerous way of assessing a horses chances of winning in this country.

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magiclips Wrote:
> I might be way off but I make Oceans Away the lay
> of the week. Can anyone figure out how his MR went
> up 10 for his last win? He is now rated 80 but to
> me has never shown ability close to that mark.
I feel the same Magic and I hope we are both not left red-faced

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Re: Re: PE TODAY - 2 OCTOBER 2009

15 years 8 months ago
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Mr H, the risk of an egg-splattered face goes with the territory! The problem with reading too much into Oceans Away's fast last time is that by definition every other horse in the race ran the 1000m faster than usual too. To suggest that they all 'improved' on the same day is patently absurd.

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Re: Re: PE TODAY - 2 OCTOBER 2009

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Kaskazini - race 1 must have a fair chance of winning the first
r3 precious promise
r4 THUNDERflash and october club
r5 hurricane silver and vangelis
r6 bold silvino and youth club
r7 saxe coburg ebukhosini scorching desert lion(perhaps a place)
r8 turbo jet glimmering gold gibralter rock

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Measured against the 3rd,4th and 5th horses in that race he ran to a MR of +- 90 .On that he is theoretically well hdcpd(unless you accept Sleepless Nights as the 'line' horse)
Perhaps he has just returned to the form where he was rated at 85!

This is the kind of debate that ensures that there are "backers" and "layers" on betting exchanges.

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Re: Re: PE TODAY - 2 OCTOBER 2009

15 years 8 months ago
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His 85 rating was 'achieved' against one of the worst maiden fields ever and he had to drop into the 60s before he could win again! He was no more an 85 back then than I was Miss World.

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Re: Re: PE TODAY - 2 OCTOBER 2009

15 years 8 months ago
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going flatliner on the inside up the straight

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Re: Re: PE TODAY - 2 OCTOBER 2009

15 years 8 months ago
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I am always willing to learn Magic....please tell how you would have rated his last run?


(BTW won 2nd race off 72,carring 59 kgs)

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Re: Re: PE TODAY - 2 OCTOBER 2009

15 years 8 months ago
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Rad your description of your runner was spot on,made up quite alot of ground late on,and will come on a bundle..

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Re: Re: PE TODAY - 2 OCTOBER 2009

15 years 8 months ago
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Rob, I was away for Oceans Away's last race so I never studied it and I don't have the card. 10 pounds just strikes me as bizarre. At a guess I would have thought a 4 or 5 pound rise would have been sensible?

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