Kimberley claims don't seem to be too KOSHER

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14 years 9 months ago
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Ya I agree with you, but the bookies have very limited knowledge about first timers at Kimberley normally you see first timer shorted dramatically and then drift to there right price just before the jump, normally you find another horse that gets backed in as well, cos this was Kimberley and the first race the market was prob very flat and that's why your horse didn't go on the drift.

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14 years 9 months ago
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Elvis

Same problem yesterday at the Vaal sand. My horse, Armatrading, opens at 5/1. Minutes after this 'claimed' and new price 5/2. For sure no stable money. After Dom's comments aired on Teletrack horse is allowed to drift to start at 12/1. Now it turns out the 5/1 was never claimed - or should I say it was a market adjustment by the bookmakers. I am of the opinion that because she is so well bred (just like yours) - mine sister to Nocturnal Affair, the bookmakers realized they prized up wrong and adjusted the odds. Only after hearing the trainers comments was the horse allowed to drift. This is not my first bad encounter with bookmakers and had a few the last year alone.

Now - we live in a very democratic society and looking at listed companies, all income expenses etc. needs to be published after being audited. These results are published in open press. Isn't it time for bookmakers to be more transparent with regard to their bets placed, payouts and also profits?

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14 years 9 months ago
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Elvis, I agree with you whole heartedly.
R5000 claim is ridiculous.
After the the horse touched even money, the market formed on Interbet. There was unlimited 18/10 and 2/1 on offer. The bookies adjusted the price to 11/10 as if they were doing us a big favour. I even posted on the Kimberley thread that they were not adjusting any prices. They just sat for an eternity at a ludicrous price. They eventually went 13/10 just before the jump when the lowest price traded on interbet was 18/10. So who are they trying to fool. Why did'nt the horse go at least 15/10 ior 16/10. I think the oddsmaker on the day should have got a grilling. He/she was fast asleep.

A few weeks ago I backed Bomber Bill at 100/1. The horse shortened from 100/1 to 33/1, 33/1 to 7/1, 7/1 to 2/1. My issue was with the last 2 adjustments. R400 caused it go shorten from 100/1 to 7/1 and a further 1400 to make it 2/1. Surely if the bookies were prepared to lay 100/1, they should gladly lay the horse at 4 or 5/1. The horse had reached its price. Nobody in their right mind would have backed it at 2/1. It ended going back to around 5/1. They should have got shot for adjusting it to 2/1.
The bookies these days seem clueless about how a market should work.

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