EBONY FLYER
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Re: Re: EBONY FLYER
14 years 8 months ago
antsinner Wrote:
> i think perana is a big runner for the cape
> guiness, i just think kenilworth will suit him !
Over rated horse or else he would have been in Dubai. Proved nothing yet although the graded win in Gautendg was worth noting.
But then again it does not take much to win in Gauteng these days. Just see how many Kzn Trainers have had graded wins recently than
in the past their
> i think perana is a big runner for the cape
> guiness, i just think kenilworth will suit him !
Over rated horse or else he would have been in Dubai. Proved nothing yet although the graded win in Gautendg was worth noting.
But then again it does not take much to win in Gauteng these days. Just see how many Kzn Trainers have had graded wins recently than
in the past their
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Re: Re: EBONY FLYER
14 years 8 months ago
shikar3 Wrote:
> antsinner Wrote:
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> > i think perana is a big runner for the cape
> > guiness, i just think kenilworth will suit him
> !
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> Over rated horse or else he would have been in
> Dubai. Proved nothing yet although the graded win
> in Gautendg was worth noting.
> But then again it does not take much to win in
> Gauteng these days. Just see how many Kzn Trainers
> have had graded wins recently than
> in the past their
Well using that logic, Gibraltar Blue must be overrated as well:S
> antsinner Wrote:
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> > i think perana is a big runner for the cape
> > guiness, i just think kenilworth will suit him
> !
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> Over rated horse or else he would have been in
> Dubai. Proved nothing yet although the graded win
> in Gautendg was worth noting.
> But then again it does not take much to win in
> Gauteng these days. Just see how many Kzn Trainers
> have had graded wins recently than
> in the past their
Well using that logic, Gibraltar Blue must be overrated as well:S
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Re: Re: EBONY FLYER
14 years 8 months ago
shikar3 Wrote:
> antsinner Wrote:
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> > i think perana is a big runner for the cape
> > guiness, i just think kenilworth will suit him
> !
>
>
> Over rated horse or else he would have been in
> Dubai. Proved nothing yet although the graded win
> in Gautendg was worth noting.
> But then again it does not take much to win in
> Gauteng these days. Just see how many Kzn Trainers
> have had graded wins recently than
> in the past their
Ya you could be correct , the thing is , as far as i am concerned he won a very good maiden race . He was then carded to run in a feature in kzn . He was scratched from that event , don't know why but something was wrong . He appeared in the gold onyx race shortly after this . He may not have recovered from his setback for this race and ran poorly .
His recent voctory moon win was very impressive , which cofirms his promise .
At this stage he could be a miler being by Rock of Gibralter. I think he is one of the better 3yo's around. The guiness will be a good test for him imo .
> antsinner Wrote:
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> > i think perana is a big runner for the cape
> > guiness, i just think kenilworth will suit him
> !
>
>
> Over rated horse or else he would have been in
> Dubai. Proved nothing yet although the graded win
> in Gautendg was worth noting.
> But then again it does not take much to win in
> Gauteng these days. Just see how many Kzn Trainers
> have had graded wins recently than
> in the past their
Ya you could be correct , the thing is , as far as i am concerned he won a very good maiden race . He was then carded to run in a feature in kzn . He was scratched from that event , don't know why but something was wrong . He appeared in the gold onyx race shortly after this . He may not have recovered from his setback for this race and ran poorly .
His recent voctory moon win was very impressive , which cofirms his promise .
At this stage he could be a miler being by Rock of Gibralter. I think he is one of the better 3yo's around. The guiness will be a good test for him imo .
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Re: Re: EBONY FLYER
14 years 8 months ago
I liked this Article in the Thoroughbred Times TODAY although i am proudly Scottish 
Social media and the news
SID FERNANDO
Social media, primarily through Twitter,
Facebook, and blogs, is allowing individuals
the ability to share information at such a pace
and depth that its merit is no longer the
issue, though in the not-so-distant past its raison d’etre was widely
questioned by traditionalists and by some then-progressives in
the media as well. Instead, it now has become evident that the
stubborn holdouts and the technologically and philosophically
confused quickly are becoming the old fogeys. Ironically,
many of the new doddering once were the old hep cats that
fostered change. That’s a statement on life itself, isn’t it?
In all fairness, the technology is scorching people at rates never
seen before. Cycles of change—particularly notable on Twitter—
have accelerated with the influx of new and talented users and the
growing behavioral sophistication of existing users, so that even
some first- and second-wave bloggers on Twitter that once were
radical when they launched alternate platforms and questioned
the hegemony of print now seem as complacent—and old fogeyish—
as the journalism they rebelled against.
Traditional print journalists who are not on social media—
particularly Twitter—are getting lost in the shuffle, which is a
shame because some of that talent should be heard. Like silent
film stars who couldn’t adapt
to the talkies, they haven’t
adapted to social media.
In the “old days,” traditional
journalists filtered the news from sources to the public but, as
sources are interacting more frequently and directly on social
media platforms with end users nowadays, the filters can no longer
exist in the traditional sense without appearing quaint. To survive
and develop, they would need to adapt and innovate. Many print
journalists are unequipped for this for many reasons, not the least
of which is they are all about writing to an audience (monologue)
instead of interacting with it (dialogue). And social media is all
about the latter.
Indeed, following or joining a conversation is the appeal of social
media. Just last week on Facebook, for example, South African
Robert Brogan, who has a website
and chat room, posted:
“Keep an eye on the Fillies
Guineas at Kenilworth at the
weekend Sid, Ebony Flyer is very exciting.” He followed it up with:
“Hi Sid this filly is owned by Team Valor in South Africa and they
like her mucho; she is by Jet Master and could be a champion.
She won her season debut by 5L on the snap from a bad draw and
needing the run; let’s hope you see her in the flesh one day...” I
tweeted this info because South Africa has been prominent lately.
Keeneland’s Tom Thornbury had recently posted a piece on
South Africa in my blog about an upcoming sale there, and Team
Valor had just won the Matriarch Stakes (G1) the week before
with South African-bred filly Gypsy’s Warning (SAf), so I eagerly
anticipated the Avontuur Estate Cape Fillies Guineas (SAf-G1)—
a race that Ebony Flyer’s half sister had won, too, before winning
a stakes in the U.S.
As predicted, Ebony Flyer won the race on Saturday, Brogan
posted a video on Facebook, and I posted it on my blog and
tweeted the news for my followers on Twitter. Does that paint a
picture?
Sid Fernando is president of Werk Thoroughbred Consultants Inc.
(eNicks.com) and eMatings.com. He is the former bloodstock editor of
Daily Racing Form. He blogs about racing and breeding at
www.sidfernando.wordpress.com and is on Twitter as @sidfernando

Social media and the news
SID FERNANDO
Social media, primarily through Twitter,
Facebook, and blogs, is allowing individuals
the ability to share information at such a pace
and depth that its merit is no longer the
issue, though in the not-so-distant past its raison d’etre was widely
questioned by traditionalists and by some then-progressives in
the media as well. Instead, it now has become evident that the
stubborn holdouts and the technologically and philosophically
confused quickly are becoming the old fogeys. Ironically,
many of the new doddering once were the old hep cats that
fostered change. That’s a statement on life itself, isn’t it?
In all fairness, the technology is scorching people at rates never
seen before. Cycles of change—particularly notable on Twitter—
have accelerated with the influx of new and talented users and the
growing behavioral sophistication of existing users, so that even
some first- and second-wave bloggers on Twitter that once were
radical when they launched alternate platforms and questioned
the hegemony of print now seem as complacent—and old fogeyish—
as the journalism they rebelled against.
Traditional print journalists who are not on social media—
particularly Twitter—are getting lost in the shuffle, which is a
shame because some of that talent should be heard. Like silent
film stars who couldn’t adapt
to the talkies, they haven’t
adapted to social media.
In the “old days,” traditional
journalists filtered the news from sources to the public but, as
sources are interacting more frequently and directly on social
media platforms with end users nowadays, the filters can no longer
exist in the traditional sense without appearing quaint. To survive
and develop, they would need to adapt and innovate. Many print
journalists are unequipped for this for many reasons, not the least
of which is they are all about writing to an audience (monologue)
instead of interacting with it (dialogue). And social media is all
about the latter.
Indeed, following or joining a conversation is the appeal of social
media. Just last week on Facebook, for example, South African
Robert Brogan, who has a website
and chat room, posted:
“Keep an eye on the Fillies
Guineas at Kenilworth at the
weekend Sid, Ebony Flyer is very exciting.” He followed it up with:
“Hi Sid this filly is owned by Team Valor in South Africa and they
like her mucho; she is by Jet Master and could be a champion.
She won her season debut by 5L on the snap from a bad draw and
needing the run; let’s hope you see her in the flesh one day...” I
tweeted this info because South Africa has been prominent lately.
Keeneland’s Tom Thornbury had recently posted a piece on
South Africa in my blog about an upcoming sale there, and Team
Valor had just won the Matriarch Stakes (G1) the week before
with South African-bred filly Gypsy’s Warning (SAf), so I eagerly
anticipated the Avontuur Estate Cape Fillies Guineas (SAf-G1)—
a race that Ebony Flyer’s half sister had won, too, before winning
a stakes in the U.S.
As predicted, Ebony Flyer won the race on Saturday, Brogan
posted a video on Facebook, and I posted it on my blog and
tweeted the news for my followers on Twitter. Does that paint a
picture?
Sid Fernando is president of Werk Thoroughbred Consultants Inc.
(eNicks.com) and eMatings.com. He is the former bloodstock editor of
Daily Racing Form. He blogs about racing and breeding at
www.sidfernando.wordpress.com and is on Twitter as @sidfernando
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Re: Re: EBONY FLYER
14 years 8 months ago
antsinner Wrote:
> shikar3 Wrote:
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> > antsinner Wrote:
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> > > i think perana is a big runner for the cape
> > > guiness, i just think kenilworth will suit
> him
> > !
> >
> >
> > Over rated horse or else he would have been in
> > Dubai. Proved nothing yet although the graded
> win
> > in Gautendg was worth noting.
> > But then again it does not take much to win in
> > Gauteng these days. Just see how many Kzn
> Trainers
> > have had graded wins recently than
> > in the past their
> Ya you could be correct , the thing is , as far
> as i am concerned he won a very good maiden race .
> He was then carded to run in a feature in kzn . He
> was scratched from that event , don't know why but
> something was wrong . He appeared in the gold onyx
> race shortly after this . He may not have
> recovered from his setback for this race and ran
> poorly .
> His recent voctory moon win was very impressive ,
> which cofirms his promise .
> At this stage he could be a miler being by Rock
> of Gibralter. I think he is one of the better
> 3yo's around. The guiness will be a good test for
> him imo .
I must disagree with you Antsinner. When Perana won his maidens, he beat the the blind school. He was 1/10 that day. Granted, he was very impreesive but there was nothing in the race. We can't use his maiden win to guage him.
> shikar3 Wrote:
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> > antsinner Wrote:
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> > > i think perana is a big runner for the cape
> > > guiness, i just think kenilworth will suit
> him
> > !
> >
> >
> > Over rated horse or else he would have been in
> > Dubai. Proved nothing yet although the graded
> win
> > in Gautendg was worth noting.
> > But then again it does not take much to win in
> > Gauteng these days. Just see how many Kzn
> Trainers
> > have had graded wins recently than
> > in the past their
> Ya you could be correct , the thing is , as far
> as i am concerned he won a very good maiden race .
> He was then carded to run in a feature in kzn . He
> was scratched from that event , don't know why but
> something was wrong . He appeared in the gold onyx
> race shortly after this . He may not have
> recovered from his setback for this race and ran
> poorly .
> His recent voctory moon win was very impressive ,
> which cofirms his promise .
> At this stage he could be a miler being by Rock
> of Gibralter. I think he is one of the better
> 3yo's around. The guiness will be a good test for
> him imo .
I must disagree with you Antsinner. When Perana won his maidens, he beat the the blind school. He was 1/10 that day. Granted, he was very impreesive but there was nothing in the race. We can't use his maiden win to guage him.
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Re: Re: EBONY FLYER
14 years 8 months ago
Kabz i agree he beat the blind school , i make that statement solely cause he recorded the best time on the day in shity conditions .
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Re: Re: EBONY FLYER
14 years 8 months ago
Queens plate for Ebony Flyer apparently.
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Re: Re: EBONY FLYER
14 years 8 months ago
And he is talking about relocating to Jozi?????? Why would you leave the Cape for Joburg??? Perhaps the Cape racing scene is dead and buried?
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Re: Re: EBONY FLYER
14 years 8 months ago
I thought he meant running 2 stables, one here and one in JHB.... Interesting he is up here for Marcus Jooste's Christmas party, do we speculate?
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Re: Re: EBONY FLYER
14 years 8 months ago
Yeah he was pretty vague but it also sounded like he wanted to make a complete move if the conditions were in their favor. No doubt he could be coming up to Jozi to ride for the Joostes?
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Re: Re: EBONY FLYER
14 years 8 months ago
Tommy_Hotspur Wrote:
> No doubt he could
> be coming up to Jozi to ride for the Joostes?
Best he stick to training>
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> No doubt he could
> be coming up to Jozi to ride for the Joostes?
Best he stick to training>

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