so what do owners really want

Believe me when one of our horses win we have a good party,the only problem is that its so seldom.

Thanks for the posts, firstly let me start by saying that I do enjoy my owners coming to the yard, whether it be to watch their horses work or to just have coffee or even to talk about topics outside of racing - I enjoy people. I do find it a conflict, eg - when owners push me to nominate/run a merit 72 horse in a group race instead of a minor race that it can win or atleast be competetive in. I like owners to trust my judgement, I am doing what I feel is best/right for the horse, ( I have had owners in the past that do not believe that shin sore horses do not put in 100%), as far as I am concerned if I run a horse which I am aware that it's sore and it runs a bad race - that is my fault, I would like owners to be a bit more understanding and trusting for these reasons.

Secondly, I am an approachable person and very open to suggestions, If one of my clients are unhappy with a descission I have made or a bad run, I would prefer them to confront me about the issue rather than me hearing about it via another trainer/owner.

Thirdly, why do some owners believe that it is my responsability to pay their fees with my stables, I have been told "I cant pay your traing fees untill you give me a horse to punt to make money", I have heard this more than once. Seriously, if it was that easy I would be driving flash cars like the bookmakers. From my point of veiw, the top horses in my yard, could very well be below average in a bigger yard with a bigger horse turnover, I can give information on my horse that it is working really well or that it has improved, but how do any of us know how well the horse in the yard next door to me is working and what its chances are.

At the end of the day I am greatful for every owner I have cause without them I would not be where I am.(

Good man Bart look forward to meeting you on boxing day, do you think that a trainer should stand in the queue at Clairwood for an owners curry?....................lol

thanks scotia, will see you on boxing day. I thought the owner was meant to stand in the queue for the curry while the trainer is saddling up the horse down stairs><

Believe me scotia if the curry is really good,bart will cut the queue lol

scotia Wrote:

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> Good man Bart look forward to meeting you on
> boxing day, do you think that a trainer should
> stand in the queue at Clairwood for an owners
> curry?....................lol

Dave, you have connections in "Curry Land"...... No need for queues Bru........ Just make sure you stock up on Ice Water...... LOL



Cheers
Anthony

@Bart:

In the final analysis, this is the situation which gives rise to 'rogue' owners and trainers (I hope I'm right! & gotta watch my grammerr!)

1. The extremely wealthy who see it as a 'sport' for fun, whilst others as a tax haven. Within this cluster, you get the 'favoured' trainers, some who only do well because of the clalss of pedigree (where there is no limit on the cheque book from patrons!) and numbers. This type of owners/trainers have little (if any) interaction with the mass (riff-raff). In the vent of any 'problems', they have their 'Yes men' within the industry's hierarchy. 'I invest millions in this industry.... and I expect....!' is not an unfamiliar remonstration to many an official!

2. The 'Mr Average' dreamer owner who saves his little pennies (or makes a huge 'kill', probably a tender!), and also wants a slice of the 'action' ('...' are for emphasis and liberty with sarcasm; not necessarily garmatikall compliant, like BEE!)

This lot of owners (sic trainers) spread their interest either by joining a syndicate, or, purchasing/leasing a bunch of horses, from which they anticipate a July/Met winner. Others are in it strictly for the 'sport' and genuine about it!

So, we have two categories in this group, with the former putting pressure upon the trainer to perform. We all know about 'soupmeat'; and if that's what it is, that's what it will be!

How does a trainer convince an owner otherwise about that magnificent looking animal purchased to realise a dream?


In conclusion, there is this quintissential play between and amongst the different classes of owners and trainers who bring their own type of pressure upon the officials, jockeys, commentators, etc.

Now, until we analyse this situation with cool heads and come up with laudable solutions, the curent status quo will continue.

That there is a total imbalance in our horseracing industry is indisputable. That we require a holistic approach to approaching it is sensible!

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> On the subject of sanity well aware we have
> different types of horses however my point was
> that the norm 90% run horses 4/6 week break and
> maybe we have more horses that could run more
> often?
> The frustration here is after the 4/6 weeks you
> get bad draw, or meeting off? and start again with
> nomination process and by the time you get a run
> the horse needs the run.
>
> just my inputs <

True enough. Sometimes you just cannot find the right races to allow a horse to run more often, or you get eliminated. So there is many an instance when a trainer would willingly run a horse closer together, but can't.

Good man Bart , I love your approach . Wishing you and your team all the best .

Hi guys, I'm most of you'll know the cape sale is coming up with some well bred horses that can be bought at a decent price. We thinking of starting another clan synidicate and race a horse for fun with let's say 20 guys from the site.
If each of us contribute r7500 we will have 150k to buy something, the monthly keep is 5k so each will contribute r 250 per month.
Dave will be the nominee and handle the financial side
Please post if interested, its the chance for the man that dreams of owning a horse to own a taill

Who is going to pick out this horse?

Well barry would you help us with the lines and some advice, seeing as team valour is so sucessful I'm sure you could give a few pointers