NO 4TH PLACE PA - GOLD CUP????
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NO 4TH PLACE PA - GOLD CUP????
13 years 10 months ago
Have just checked the PA results for race 7-
numbers displayed are.....
6, 17 & 20
What about 4th place in the PA for 16 or more horses?
numbers displayed are.....
6, 17 & 20
What about 4th place in the PA for 16 or more horses?
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Re: Re: NO 4TH PLACE PA - GOLD CUP????
13 years 10 months ago
@hibs:
after very long time, decided to play a PA.
crazy! they pay 6 places yet no 4th place on the pa.
How many 1st timers have been knocked out following the press tipsters?
No more for me!
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after very long time, decided to play a PA.
crazy! they pay 6 places yet no 4th place on the pa.
How many 1st timers have been knocked out following the press tipsters?
No more for me!
:X
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Re: Re: NO 4TH PLACE PA - GOLD CUP????
13 years 10 months ago
PA is only 3 places no matter how many horses in a race.
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Re: Re: NO 4TH PLACE PA - GOLD CUP????
13 years 10 months ago
Yip, this rule in effect for quite some time now and nowhere was it mentioned that the 6 places also applies to the PA - would have been good marketing though to mention it - some punters may have assumed that because the number of places paid, that the PA rule also changes
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Re: Re: NO 4TH PLACE PA - GOLD CUP????
13 years 10 months ago
Tnx Frodo:
'some punters may have assumed that because the number of places paid, that the PA rule also changes'
that's the point!
Besides, it costs them nix to have done that; their take-out remains the same!
End result, more winners, more happy 1st time punters...... future entrants to the game & satisfied old hats!
there is this view that, to make it more difficult to catch, results in bigger payouts which will tend to increase participation. on the contrary, regular punters would rather stick to their budget and stake out the best possible return; I would definitely skip taking a pa if the fields are 14 or more in more than circa 3 races as there is now an increased constraint without any give. Rather a straight bet, trif, swinger or e/w bet, etc. or lay off!
i seriously doubt its efficacy in marketing terms and procuring a 'captive market'.
pa pools do not attract any extra players as against a p6 that is a carry-over; how many pa's have been c/o?
therefore, reason (and practical marketing considerations) should dictate that these be made easier to 'catch' so that the 'punter' remains in the loop at the least.
You go to the casinos; they have patron friendly machines and betting options to suit different whims and fancies; the more they win, the more they will return to play..... can it be any simpler?
Leave the P6 and JP with their current rules for the seasoned pros and those who want ti try their luck..... like the Lotto!
'some punters may have assumed that because the number of places paid, that the PA rule also changes'
that's the point!
Besides, it costs them nix to have done that; their take-out remains the same!
End result, more winners, more happy 1st time punters...... future entrants to the game & satisfied old hats!
there is this view that, to make it more difficult to catch, results in bigger payouts which will tend to increase participation. on the contrary, regular punters would rather stick to their budget and stake out the best possible return; I would definitely skip taking a pa if the fields are 14 or more in more than circa 3 races as there is now an increased constraint without any give. Rather a straight bet, trif, swinger or e/w bet, etc. or lay off!
i seriously doubt its efficacy in marketing terms and procuring a 'captive market'.
pa pools do not attract any extra players as against a p6 that is a carry-over; how many pa's have been c/o?
therefore, reason (and practical marketing considerations) should dictate that these be made easier to 'catch' so that the 'punter' remains in the loop at the least.
You go to the casinos; they have patron friendly machines and betting options to suit different whims and fancies; the more they win, the more they will return to play..... can it be any simpler?
Leave the P6 and JP with their current rules for the seasoned pros and those who want ti try their luck..... like the Lotto!
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Re: Re: NO 4TH PLACE PA - GOLD CUP????
13 years 10 months ago
umlilo,
Imo, the argument of having more places (conditionally) in the PA is similar to the argument of having first timers and couplings in the JP - some will agree with it, some will not - I myself cut my admittedly mediocre spend by more than 1/2 since the coupling/first timer rule was amended for the JP - however I acknowledge that I am in the minority and so I live with it - would have been nice (but perhaps not practical) to have a choice in the matter though.
I think the main things missing here are research and communication - did they do any research on whether the betting public want more places in the PA? They certainly failed on the comms issue.
Imo, the argument of having more places (conditionally) in the PA is similar to the argument of having first timers and couplings in the JP - some will agree with it, some will not - I myself cut my admittedly mediocre spend by more than 1/2 since the coupling/first timer rule was amended for the JP - however I acknowledge that I am in the minority and so I live with it - would have been nice (but perhaps not practical) to have a choice in the matter though.
I think the main things missing here are research and communication - did they do any research on whether the betting public want more places in the PA? They certainly failed on the comms issue.
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