has the ACHIEVER SYNDICATE GONE ? has the horse gone ?
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13 years 9 months ago
j-pegged this was not an ill conceived idea -Remember before I joined the RA "Youth Day" was something talked about for a few years but was never realised - I would never had allowed this to have happened if i were still there - the kids were suppossed to be invited to the stable on a monthly basis - the data base that SHOULD have been collected on Acheivers day was to be used to invite young racers to meetings regularly(once a month) The idea was to inject life into ownership and through word of mouth build the young owner base - I do not care who sees this but what was done to these youngsters(by not keeping them informed and not involving them in racing) is a disgrace and those responsible should be ashamed. Finding a winning horse is tough but owning a loosing horse does not have to be a disaster especially if you are not paying for it - As far as I have heard Acheviers Day was a huge success and for that I am proud - What followed the next day and thereafter was poor and I thank the Lord that I had nothing to do with destroying something that could have been great - - I heard big stories of future events but saw nothing and if anyone thinks I suffer from sour grapes then tough you know the truth(I was offered my grapes back but felt it best to move on) - I gave racing many good ideas and concepts but the way they were carried out and not followed through hurts me and thankfully I no longer care about local racing enough to loose sleep over it - And to anyone that thinks they could do better my answer is- do something don't just talk about it - If you fail then no harm but to critise without doing anything yourself is just hypocritical(ps I stopped going to church because I realised I was a hypocrite.)
further i had sponsors ready to jump on board for the next one - all they wanted was to see the DVD of the day and they were willing to join - What happend to that idea and the many other plans? Nothing! One thing I can say about myself is that I may talk alot but I also do alot - sometimes I fail but I never stop trying to find solutions to problems and I am never afraid to learn from others or to seek their advice - That's the reason I suggested a youth commitee should be formed because I was not arogant enough to think I knew what people under 30 enjoyed - selling a product to a market you do not understand is deadly -
further i had sponsors ready to jump on board for the next one - all they wanted was to see the DVD of the day and they were willing to join - What happend to that idea and the many other plans? Nothing! One thing I can say about myself is that I may talk alot but I also do alot - sometimes I fail but I never stop trying to find solutions to problems and I am never afraid to learn from others or to seek their advice - That's the reason I suggested a youth commitee should be formed because I was not arogant enough to think I knew what people under 30 enjoyed - selling a product to a market you do not understand is deadly -
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Re: Re: has the ACHIEVER SYNDICATE GONE ? has the horse gone ?
13 years 9 months ago
Spot on,Mr H. Great Idea badly managed!
I go on about this a lot but bad management is rife in the industry and most of its problems boil down to this failure,in so many areas.
I go on about this a lot but bad management is rife in the industry and most of its problems boil down to this failure,in so many areas.
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Re: Re: has the ACHIEVER SYNDICATE GONE ? has the horse gone ?
13 years 9 months ago
Sent sms to my son asking about horse, his reply " hi dad, I dont know? didn't even know it was running"?

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Re: Re: has the ACHIEVER SYNDICATE GONE ? has the horse gone ?
13 years 9 months ago
www.racingassociation.co.za/
looked at the RA site nothing I could find mentioning the horse or the day - I wonder where the pictures of the day are? I wonder how many stable visits were orginised? I wonder if there is a Youth tent orginised at the Emerald Cup(part of the plans) Actually I find myself wondering too much and the only good that has come of it is rembering all the great times I had listening to the song of the same name
Rodriguez - I Wonder Lyrics
I wonder how many times you've been had
And I wonder how many plans have gone bad
I wonder how many times you had sex
I wonder do you know who'll be next
I wonder l wonder wonder I do
I wonder about the love you can't find
And I wonder about the loneliness that's mine
I wonder how much going have you got
And I wonder about your friends that are not
I wonder I wonder I wonder I do
I wonder about the tears in children's eyes
And I wonder about the soldier that dies
I wonder will this hatred ever end
I wonder and worry my friend
I wonder I wonder wonder don't you?
I wonder how many times you been had
And I wonder how many dreams have gone bad
I wonder how many times you've had sex
And I wonder do you care who'll be next
I wonder I wonder wonder I do
looked at the RA site nothing I could find mentioning the horse or the day - I wonder where the pictures of the day are? I wonder how many stable visits were orginised? I wonder if there is a Youth tent orginised at the Emerald Cup(part of the plans) Actually I find myself wondering too much and the only good that has come of it is rembering all the great times I had listening to the song of the same name
Rodriguez - I Wonder Lyrics
I wonder how many times you've been had
And I wonder how many plans have gone bad
I wonder how many times you had sex
I wonder do you know who'll be next
I wonder l wonder wonder I do
I wonder about the love you can't find
And I wonder about the loneliness that's mine
I wonder how much going have you got
And I wonder about your friends that are not
I wonder I wonder I wonder I do
I wonder about the tears in children's eyes
And I wonder about the soldier that dies
I wonder will this hatred ever end
I wonder and worry my friend
I wonder I wonder wonder don't you?
I wonder how many times you been had
And I wonder how many dreams have gone bad
I wonder how many times you've had sex
And I wonder do you care who'll be next
I wonder I wonder wonder I do
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Re: Re: has the ACHIEVER SYNDICATE GONE ? has the horse gone ?
13 years 9 months ago
Sorry Mr. H did not mean to offend and maybe I should rephrase -the idea was not ill conceived but as Rob so aptly put it badly managed. I was on course for one of the last night racing meetings at Turffies and the horse was running and RA had set aside an area for these "achievers". They seemed to have been enjoying themselves but if it were not for the "freebie" I doubted that they would be back.What gets my goat is that 20 or so hopefills receiving bad communication also endemic to the industry. They should have been let down easy, like invited to another racing jol and jointly told that something has gone wrong and they will not be seeing the horse run.Lack of follow up or follow through has spoiled the idea and killed any chances of their future involvement. Idea not swept unger the carpet but an entire campaign.
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Re: Re: has the ACHIEVER SYNDICATE GONE ? has the horse gone ?
13 years 9 months ago
No offence taken j - with proper management (as i did with my own horses ) and communication- - you know if the horse will win or not or place etc - that's the fun part - watching gallops, seeing your horse work, visiting stables - that's what i had planned for these guys - imagine if 20 guys/girls came to visit the stables once per month - they'd bring along friends - offer them a discount for a table of four in one of the rooms - get them to stay for the races etc - all planned in advance but there were more important things to do i suppose like making sure you don't wear jeans to the races!
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Re: Re: has the ACHIEVER SYNDICATE GONE ? has the horse gone ?
13 years 9 months ago
Mr Hawaai, your input is welcomed. yes this whole episode is BADLY MANAGED......right from the start . Scotia......... has your son been told of the outcome or whereabouts of this horse ? is it still in training ? HAS THIS " ACHIEVERS SYNDICATE BEEN DISSOLVED " if it has, is your son aware of it ? SCOTIA.... YOU / YOUR SON, HAS NOT SAID IF HE IS AWARE OF THIS SYNDICATE BEEN DISSOLVED OR NOT........ I have only heard this 2nd hand rumour...... can someone confirm please !
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Re: Re: has the ACHIEVER SYNDICATE GONE ? has the horse gone ?
13 years 9 months ago
Frodo, if memory serves me correct, WILLIAM NSELE was also one of the 1st guys recruited with the GRAEME HAWKINS initiatve,.. in 2000 odd ( STOLEN BEAUTY I WAS INVOLVED WITH )
& where is WILLIAM TODAY......... a part owner of 20 - 30 horses with the GREG BLANK SYNDICATE....... & he is a DIRECTOR of the NEW R.A. I THINK ?
I am no longer a member....................at least we have about 33 % success rate of converted owners from 2000.......... CLASS OF 2010 & YOUR ACHIEVERS DAY INIATIVE - CARE TO GIVE YOUR STATS ?
& where is WILLIAM TODAY......... a part owner of 20 - 30 horses with the GREG BLANK SYNDICATE....... & he is a DIRECTOR of the NEW R.A. I THINK ?
I am no longer a member....................at least we have about 33 % success rate of converted owners from 2000.......... CLASS OF 2010 & YOUR ACHIEVERS DAY INIATIVE - CARE TO GIVE YOUR STATS ?
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13 years 9 months ago
mr hawaai, I have read your response once again, late at night AGAIN & what i can asertain is that you are passionate aboute racing, the pity is the folks in charge / marketing know **ck all about marketingk & promoting their product. All I can say is THEY COULD DO DO WITH SOME ONE OF YOUR CALIBRE on THEIR side but they wearing BLINKERS THE WHOLE ** CKING TIME " take them off PUM / R.A.
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Re: Re: has the ACHIEVER SYNDICATE GONE ? has the horse gone ?
13 years 9 months ago
Mr Hawaai, I will be at HEREDOM CHARITY DAY...... would like to meet you there an chat for a while ?
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Re: Re: has the ACHIEVER SYNDICATE GONE ? has the horse gone ?
13 years 9 months ago
hi elvis never go racing anymore (my blinkers are off) - perhaps one day at hollywood boksburg or keith ho benoni - i think you are also on the east rand?
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