What is a good betting race

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What is a good betting race

13 years 10 months ago
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Interesting article


Here is what a race caller said as the horses were going into the starting stalls for the first race.

"This is a good betting race, this...The reason it's such a good betting race is that there's so much guessing going on and that's good. There's some disclosed form, then there's nothing. In the end of the day I think a lot of people think they have a horse that gallops particularly well and because they don't know a lot about the others I think they decide to have a go, which is pretty good thinking."

A number of astute punters we know were a little flabbergasted. They could not believe that such a terrible betting race was being called a "good betting race".

The race was a 2YO Fillies over 1000 metres. Exactly half of the field, five  fillies, had never raced before. The others had no disclosed form but included fillies from the strong stables.

The five fillies with race experience included three with only one start, while two had both run respectable fourths. Two fillies had raced three times, with one finishing second in a 2YO Open over 1100 metres two weeks earlier.

There are good betting races and there are GOOD betting races. Maybe the race caller was calling the race a good betting race.

"What is the difference?"  you may well ask. 

In a good betting race there are:

1. A lot of activity in the betting ring.

2. There are many form queries.

3. Many horses are given a chance of winning.

4. On paper it looks a raffle.

5. Many punters decide to "have a go" and back horses at R10.00 thinking they are getting value when the opposite is the case. The horses are true R20.00 chances or even worse.

To cut things short it is exactly the type of race that smart punters who want to give themselves a decent chance of winning at the punt usually leave alone. Punters who have a big go in these races have the odds heavily stacked against them. The odds were massively stacked against punters in that 2YO Fillies Open mentioned above. 

But an important question needs to be asked.
Why did the race caller describe the 2YO Fillies as a "good betting race"?

Nothing actually happened in the betting ring.
The opening prices of the 10 runners in the betting ring with their market percentages totaled 164.92%. 
That is equivalent to betting eight rands to win two on the toss of a coin.
Any wonder prices eased in the betting ring.

Only one filly stayed firm at her opening quote of R8.00.
Only two horses firmed at any stage in the betting ring.  

There is no evidence whatsoever that all those owners and connections who "think they have a horse that gallops particularly well" decided to "have a go".

The starting price market percentage totaled 142.74%. 
That is equivalent to betting seven rands to win three on the toss of a coin!

Combine the lack of disclosed form with very poor prices on offer and the punters are on a hiding to nothing.

Why does the race caller say it is "pretty good thinking" to "have a go" under those circumstances? when "there's so much guessing going on and that's good"? We just can't work that one out.

What is a GOOD betting race?
Precisely the opposite of that 2YO Fillies race.

1. It is a race where the odds can favour smart punters long term.

2. There is plenty of disclosed and current form.

3. There are also usually only a few horses with realistic winning chances.

4. That means the race is not a raffle. 

5. Correctly sort out the main chances, get good odds about your key selections, stake them right and long term you should do well.

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Re: Re: Good Betting Races

13 years 10 months ago
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It's a good betting race if u back the winner lol
Most of the races I watched yesterday via Interbet started at around 103%,

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Re: Re: Good Betting Races

13 years 10 months ago
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Great post Tero.

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Re: Re: What is a good betting race

13 years 10 months ago
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"Good" is a relative term....good for who?is the question.Almost every situation pleases somebody ,but normally at the expense of others,so if many are guessing and you have the inside track its a good race for you............but bad for the guessers.
A'good' betting race for you, is when one horse has an unfair advantage over the others......and you know which one it is!.......lol

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Re: Re: What is a good betting race

13 years 10 months ago
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rob faux Wrote:
> "Good" is a relative term....good for who?is the
> question.Almost every situation pleases somebody
> ,but normally at the expense of others,so if many
> are guessing and you have the inside track its a
> good race for you............but bad for the
> guessers.
> A'good' betting race for you, is when one horse
> has an unfair advantage over the others......and
> you know which one it is!.......lol

i'm yet to find one of those...:S

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