structuring a quartet bet..

well essentially a quartet is a jackpot but in 1 race. so instead of maybe always going with field in the back as seems the norm both on this thread and when i witnessed punters playing them. What is wrong with the following as an example

In race 1 today AIR CHief has run 3rd 3 times in a row. I dont think it can win today BUT i think it can run 2nd or 3rd

so maybe

f x 6 x 1/2/3/4/5/8/10/11/16 x same
f x same x 6 x same

or in race 4 where i think De La Danza will be in the 1st 2 i would not even waste money having it 3rd and 4th.

So maybe in a round about way you are doing what i am saying BUT maybe shifting the thoguhts of field at the back to "field where appropriate" is a better strategy?

Interesting structure, and logically put together, i will follow as such without actually taking a bet and see how it works out....

In last years Computaform Sprint I didnt know what to do so I looked at the Citizen Racing Express tips where there were 6 tips and played 6 straight line quartets as per the tips from Jack Milner, Computaform, Sporting Post ect the 6 bets cost R36 and the amazingly Computaform one came home in the exact order, Val de Ra, What A Winter, Shea Shea & Magico, I collected + - R3300 for my troubles

Prior to this the same thing happened in the 2011 L Jaffee Empress Club Stakes with Jack Milners tip Dancewiththedevil, Welwitshia, Flirtation & Fisani where I got + - R1400 for my 18 rand bet as there were only 3 tips that day

And finally in the 2011 Cathsseta Sport Workriders Maiden plate the same thing happed where I got R750 for playing the three tips at R6 a pop, Beat The Odds, Trade Ban, Fortnums & Sizzling Guy came home.

Obviously the above is pure luck but to be honest when I structure my own quartets its either too pricey and I generally land up losing.. so maybe its better to just leave it up to racing experts and the like.

I have said this a few times and ill say it again, even using www.random.org i found winners and played horses for many meetings with relative success.

This thread for me is fascinating because it asks about structure.

Now i am not yet in a place where my betting is structured in such a way that i can retire BUt i am closer than most.

Ask yourself the following. How may people do you know that go racing (with R1000) lose R1000 rand on the day but backed 2 winners , 1 winner at 4/1 and 1 winner at 3/1?

this is a common proiblem with punters, it can so easily be rectified with structure. Now once one is able to apply structure to ones staking one can then delve a bit deeper and somehow search for structure in other bets namely the exotics.

The quartet is the obvious one because it pays very very well and there are > than 8 of them a day.

So you all complain about Betfair going away and Interbet NOT allowing you to lay horses BUT you have a way of laying horses. Whats wrong with taking a view that the even money shot is going to run 2nd or 3rd? then structure your quartets accordingly, Of course sometimes the even money shot wins and you lose or it runs 4th BUT at least over time you are saving money and frankly do you really want to catch a quartet where the even money WINS??

Before anyone sites that the resutl could be 1st: evens 2nd:100/1 3rd: 100/1 4th: 100/1 let me just quickly tell you that NO strategy in the world will accomodate that type of result.

BUT

F x fav x horse x horses could = 100/1 x evens x 4/1 x 6/1 and that will pay

Guys I cannot understand choosing a strategy and then hoping that the race programme will provide appropriate races to suit the strategy?
Each race is different and after analysis you are best placed to structure your bet around your predictions.
I will be taking 3 quartets today and not one will be the same as another................I will let the analysis determine the structure.

Nobody would go with a jackpot structure which blindly banks the favourite in the 3rd leg and the 3rd fav in the 4th leg, as a matter of course,because there is no logic in that ,but that is what you do if you predetermine your quartet strategy.

The pointer is in Homepunts statement that he is most successful in maidens........why? well I would guess that it easier to correctly select the winner,using only 2 horses, in a plate race, than you would in a handicap.
I am surprised that the highest strike rate is not in plate and condition races that are NOT maidens.

@ rob

i was not entimating that it should be the same all the time. BUT what i will say is that for ure there is a culture of sticking the field in the last leg and i would hasten to add that it happens in a HUGE % of quartets. Of course every race is different

I was responding to the thread as a whole,not your posts Easy!

I do understand what you are saying Rob, don't just banker for the sake of it in all your quartets, there are alot more variables you have to take into consideration in structuring quartets....

I have 3 structures which I have been more success with but it does not mean I use structure 1 for races 2,4, and 8 and structure 2 for races 1,3, and 5.... They are merely my options of playing quartets IF i play one...

My favourite and most profitable bet .
I structure as follows : 2 horses / 4 horses / six horses / and always Field for fourth.
I prefer big fields and play a percentage. Seldom spend more than R200.
I choose my first choice and add the biggest danger for first/ add the next best two runners/ a further two for third and the very important field for fourth. I only play my Quartet once I have seen them canter to post.
NEVER LET PRICE OR FORM PUT YOU OFF YOUR FIRST TWO CHOICES. ( Not shouting, trying to make a vital point.)

i usually take the risk.i try to study formlines and where applicable i take an outsider as my banker,put the 1st,2ndfav plus 2further outsiders by same bet by field.the idea is to try beat the fav.of coz you cant just beat the fav all the times so you can banker with fav and put the 2nd fav with outsiders.goodluck

I just stick to "win" bets. Its difficult enough getting a "win" never mind 2nd, AND, 3rd, AND 4th.