BIG T Saturday

Troubled Waters, Wildest Dream, Blue H Bay

Cant see him running outta the 1st 3 atleast!bt expecting him to win

Lucky_Dude Wrote:

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> THE CLUB KING
> WAGNER

Bezant ()

Strydom's article in this morning's Racing Express was very misleading, to say the least, when it came to the chances of Wagner. Dropping drastically in class, he looked like a good thing, but after one had read what Strydom had to say about the horse disliking the inside track you would have thought twice. I'm sure that his remarks cost many people the Pick Six. A word of caution is one thing (Piere is never less than cautious, when discussing any of his mounts, it has to be said), but this was blatantly off-putting. And by the way, Clyde, I'm sure the horse is named after the composer, Wagner (his mother is called Cosima Liszt) and not Robert Wagner, the actor. The pronounciation is therefore Vaag-ner, and not Wag-ner.

If you doing your tom have a few bob on Big Light in the 8th

Titch Wrote:

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> If you doing your tom have a few bob on Big Light
> in the 8th


now thats a hound

Shot Lucky Dude....-D

Neighmaster Wrote:

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> Strydom's article in this morning's Racing Express
> was very misleading, to say the least, when it
> came to the chances of Wagner. Dropping
> drastically in class, he looked like a good thing,
> but after one had read what Strydom had to say
> about the horse disliking the inside track you
> would have thought twice. I'm sure that his
> remarks cost many people the Pick Six. A word of
> caution is one thing (Piere is never less than
> cautious, when discussing any of his mounts, it
> has to be said), but this was blatantly
> off-putting. And by the way, Clyde, I'm sure the
> horse is named after the composer, Wagner (his
> mother is called Cosima Liszt) and not Robert
> Wagner, the actor. The pronounciation is therefore
> Vaag-ner, and not Wag-ner.


I think mostly the trainers and jocks call it as they see it - yes they get it wrong sometimes (remember Red Fort last week?), just like the rest of us - that's just how it is - not sure what he said about Umfutho, but I did not fancy it at all

Titch Wrote:

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> If you doing your tom have a few bob on Big Light
> in the 8th

Titch let me help you get out of it (or deeper in the sh!t)...()

Winter Mist win
Maiko Magic place

good end to the pa..had fiery and saucy savannah

Frodo Wrote:

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> Only 5 mils of rain fell over the last 24 hours as
> per TABGOLD - I thought it rained a lot more?
>
> Anyway there will be 'give in the ground' on which
> I base most of my ramblings below.
>
> R1: Has an open look about it - maybe Shareefa's
> Jet each way
> R2: Galileo's Destiny - what else?
> R3: Perform to Please has run a fair race in soft
> conditions, so I'm backing up The Club King with
> PtP in the PA
> R4: Olympia Beijing the right one on form - I'm
> including Queen's Star - also drawn well - on a
> hunch that she will improve over the trip
> R5: Demanding Lady all the rage, ran a great race
> when drawn on the 'wrong' side of the Vaal
> straight last time and should improve more this
> trip, only reservation might be if the track comes
> of softer than reported; clear 2nd choice for me
> is Waley's Camp, who has run out of the placings
> only once over this trip (and that was her last
> run in a Conditions Plate - well out at the
> weights - behind Without Malice)
> R6: Competive handicap; safest choice for the PA
> imo is the in-form Troubled Waters, but chances to
> Dark Wind (ran 4.5 lengths behind English Garden
> over this trip in the SA Classic last year, and
> has come down in the ratings), Zambucca, Wildest
> Dream and Wagner (who get s tongue tie and
> Striker, so could improve lengths on his recent
> form) - also if the ground is not soft, one can't
> ignore Blue Horizon Bay either.
> R7: Another open handicap, Festival Spirit
> probably the safest choice from a good draw for
> the PA, but Canute the Great (I think his last run
> can be ignored) and Caribbean Coast are both good
> value imo, also a real roughie to consider is
> Bezant, who beat Go Gold in the maidens over this
> trip and now gets weight from that one - Rheims
> tries blinkers and any improvement with them could
> see him feature as well - and I haven't even
> mentioned the joint fav Hulabaloo - field race in
> the P6 imo
> R8: Yet another handicap - not much separating the
> principles like Beat the Odds, National Road.
> Active Power and Indian Firecracker (draw favors
> Beat the Odds) - Umfutho not sure to stay, so the
> roughie to consider in my opinion is Big Light
> from the Kom Naidoo yard
> R9: Not getting any easier, fillies and mares
> handicap to close; Saucy Savannah has a good draw
> and could be better than rated; Goose Valley is a
> definite contender imo, and for another roughie
> consider Fiery - drawn wide, but very good last
> run in a Novice Plate and not too much between F
> and Prive du Bois on form
>
> Enjoy (tu)


But for Umfutho would have been a fantasic day