Cape Ownership - Yesterday

Jet Supreme -owned by breeder
Trip Poker - Owned by Breeder
Lord Paramount - Fieldspring
Lauries Gold - Jooste / Shirtliff
November rain - Oscar
Island Flyer owned by breeder
sweep forward - Jooste breeder

Where are the smaller owners. Are there any left in cape town?

there are a few

The Black Rose: J Mahony
Northern Conquest: Miss Rausing
Jackson: Messers Longmore and Mitchel
Valdivia: T Y Lyn

Two Oceans Racing are still available to give the small guy a chance to own a share for the pricely cost of the percentage of the keep. You can own 10% in three / four or more horses and contribute towards a fixed cost per month. Currently it works out to about R650 per month per horse( all inclusive). No initial outlay, just pay towards keep. A good way to be introduced into ownership where the emphasis is on ownership and not on making money out of you. All horses are in training , some have earned already/ many will start racing within the next three months. Having said all that I must add that it does seem that it is the same ' old money ' investing in horse racing, very much like the loyal tote punters every day at the tote. We need to broaden the base.

Thanks 2oceansracing. A similiar type of deal like TeamG racing.

Much better than some trainers wanting to sell you some dud that does not even see the race course.

Having said that, it is high time that owners have some sort of "recourse" for so-called expensive flops.

Why should it be the owner (consumer) that always bear the brunt. It is almost never the trainer or breeder.
All owners get told is that we should get rid of the horse. Who sold us the horse in the first place.

Agra to be fair you cannot hold the breeder/trainer liable - you bought the horse knowing that it could be a champ or a dud - it's like backing a horse and when it does not win you want your money back - it's said over and over horses are not machines but the most NB rule -BUYER BEWARE!!

A horse never knows it's price and the buyer never knows his natural ability. Cheap horses are cheap because they have poor pedigrees or 'off -set knees , slack pasterns , no depth , too narrow , ugly head , terrible hocks etc '( poor conformation ). This does not mean that they can't run, it possibly means that they could breakdown sooner and have a shorter racing career. All the experts get it wrong most times and correct only some times. There is nothing in the world that can tell us his natural ability and if he has the ' guts ' to want to win. We all dream to own that special horse and when he does come along it is all over so quickly , maybe two or three years and then it is all over by either being handicapped/rated not to win or some form of injury due to wear and tear.
What a sport , what a rush of adrenalin ! Ask any of the guys here who have led in a winner.

agra Wrote:

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> Thanks 2oceansracing. A similiar type of deal like
> TeamG racing.
>
> Much better than some trainers wanting to sell you
> some dud that does not even see the race course.
>
> Having said that, it is high time that owners have
> some sort of "recourse" for so-called expensive
> flops.
>
> Why should it be the owner (consumer) that always
> bear the brunt. It is almost never the trainer or
> breeder.
> All owners get told is that we should get rid of
> the horse. Who sold us the horse in the first
> place.


Agra if you buy a 2000cc Toyota and try and out run a 2000cc BMW you soon find out you have done your money.

Hibs , I guess you drive a BMW , lol.

2oceansracing Wrote:

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> Hibs , I guess you drive a BMW , lol.


Nope a Toyota Avensis ()

2oceansracing Wrote:

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> Hibs , I guess you drive a BMW , lol.

check your PM

Who'd buy a horse with artificial pins instead of back feet? Who'd think Pistorius would go to the Olympic Games? I imagine everyone knows of a sales dud that no-one wanted but that turned out to be a star. That's why we remember them and talk about them and write stories about them. Some of us are gamblers at heart, and enjoy the chanciness of it all, and the real (if minute) chance to upstage the big buyers.

And don't some of us also identify with the selling-stakes horse that winds up winning Grade 1's? Somehow these ones pluck the tired old heart-strings where the well-bred, well-made, expensive yearling that also wins Grade 1's, doesn't. Maybe we see ourselves in them?

Titch Wrote:

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> there are a few
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> The Black Rose: J Mahony
> Northern Conquest: Miss Rausing
> Jackson: Messers Longmore and Mitchel
> Valdivia: T Y Lyn


longmore and lin are hardly small owners!