Jackson

Remember that Jackson did win well, but the most impressive horse was Shogunnar. If that horse ran straight, he would have finished within a length or so of Jackson at level weights. Would we be still saying that Jackson ran a good race? On MR there should be more than 10 lengths between the two.

jackson clearly best horse in contry over 1800m and further,but i dont think the owners should run him in july as no 3yr old in history of race has won with more than 55kgs.i do believe he would win the race despite the weight,but many a good horse has never been the same after july so best to miss the race and fry bigger fish overseas.as for ilha bela wont be in 1st 5 in july.jhb form is shocking so even with mdk magic, sorry not for me.

Much will depend on the weights after final acceptances - I'm still of the opinion that Jackson (and Ilha Bela) is not ideally suited to Greyville and in the July Jackson will give weight away to older horses - certainly no 16/10 shot in my book - if English Garden does not bleed in the race, he will be a serious runner - and depending on how PJ goes on Saturday, he could come into it as well

I believe if the Handicappers force Jackson to carry 60 kg's in the July, he will be scratched and end up Overseas.

I was told Delpech is riding Ilha Bela in the July

Ships Gossip Wrote:

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> I believe if the Handicappers force Jackson to
> carry 60 kg's in the July, he will be scratched
> and end up Overseas.
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> I was told Delpech is riding Ilha Bela in the July

Also thought Del will ride her in July as I don't think Marcus can make teh Weight. Think she will come in at 52/53 Kg

SREDDY Wrote:

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> Remember that Jackson did win well, but the most
> impressive horse was Shogunnar. If that horse ran
> straight, he would have finished within a length
> or so of Jackson at level weights. Would we be
> still saying that Jackson ran a good race? On MR
> there should be more than 10 lengths between the
> two.

Had big place bet on Shogunnar.....only because he had to prove that he was worthy in the field....pity though he gonna be thumped in the ratings and not be able to run in the big one....:S

I think shogunnar will rather run in the Derby? Much better race for him anyway, level weights right?

I don't know how these handicappers work? Hope the owners don't pull Jackson out the race. Top, top horse. Great run by Shogunnar as well in the Daily News.

Gunnar mission the derby on 24 my money on him to smoke them even with teh hike in rating

rolands song Wrote:

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> Gunnar mission the derby on 24 my money on him to
> smoke them even with teh hike in rating


RS...THE HIKE IN RATING WILL HAVE NO INFLUENCE IN THE DERBY..its run at level weights....and i wouldn't read too much into the form behind Jackson in the daily news..as i think there were more horses in the race trying to be further behind jackson than really trying to beat him...BAD company said he liked the run of POMODORO,...he has a point...considering the circumstances....POMODORO is still very alive....

Listening to the post race interview, MDK was far from unhappy with Ilha Bela's performance, if anything he was pleased with the way she ran on from a hopeless position (hopefully without too much persuasion from "the doctor"). On USO, MDK admitted having to freshen Ilha Bela up for the Woolavington, so i tend to agree, there was no need to punish her to win the race. She's not the biggest filly around and will be ideally suited to the Greyville track, on the day i feel they will race her a lot handier, hopefully with 52/3.0kgs on her back.

i will be surprised if Jackson gets any penalty at all 4 the Daily News win