Frankel Vs Camelot in August?
- Titch
-
Topic Author
- Platinum Member
-
- Posts: 9397
- Thanks: 366
Frankel Vs Camelot in August?
12 years 11 months ago
SIR HENRY CECIL on Friday spoke of his excitement about the prospect of his superstar colt Frankel going head-to-head with the brilliant dual Classic winner Camelot in the Juddmonte International Stakes at York in August.
That race looks like being the first time Frankel, the winner of all of his ten starts so far, will race beyond a mile with the Queen Anne Stakes at Royal Ascot in less than two weeks time and the Qipco Sussex Stakes at Glorious Goodwood on August 1 his next two targets.
Plans for Camelot, who added the Derby to his win in the Guineas and two successes last year, are more fluid. He heads the betting for the Ladbrokes St Leger and Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe later in the year and also the Dubai Duty Free Irish Derby at the Curragh later in the month.
It is, however, the possibility of a clash between the two stars of the Flat at York on August 22 that has racing fans licking their lips and Cecil himself is among the camp who would like to see that momentous event occur.
"That would be very exciting," Cecil said. "[Camelot] can still do the Irish Derby, the Juddmonte and the St Leger and I am doing the Sussex Stakes and [then] three weeks after the Juddmonte. He is doing the Irish Derby and a longer break before the Juddmonte and can still go and do the Leger.
"Hopefully [Camelot] will go for the Juddmonte and I would love it because it would be exciting," Cecil told At The Races.
Frankel beat old foe Excelebration by five lengths on his reappearance at Newbury in the Lockinge Stakes last month and Cecil expects him to improve for that outing.
"I am not saying he is going to be but he could be [3 or 4lb better]," the legendary trainer said.
"I think he is better, he is stronger this year. I didn't push him but I have never pushed him for his first race anyway, as a two-year-old, a three-year-old or four-year-old. Like a lot of trainers we don't have them 100 per cent first time out, that is just the beginning.
Looking ahead to the rest of the season, Cecil continued: "He has got important engagements as the season goes on and the main thing is as long as he can win, let's hope he can win well, it does not matter if it is two lengths or ten lengths.
"The Juddmonte will be the most interesting as he is going another two and a half furlongs and he is going against different horses."
That race looks like being the first time Frankel, the winner of all of his ten starts so far, will race beyond a mile with the Queen Anne Stakes at Royal Ascot in less than two weeks time and the Qipco Sussex Stakes at Glorious Goodwood on August 1 his next two targets.
Plans for Camelot, who added the Derby to his win in the Guineas and two successes last year, are more fluid. He heads the betting for the Ladbrokes St Leger and Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe later in the year and also the Dubai Duty Free Irish Derby at the Curragh later in the month.
It is, however, the possibility of a clash between the two stars of the Flat at York on August 22 that has racing fans licking their lips and Cecil himself is among the camp who would like to see that momentous event occur.
"That would be very exciting," Cecil said. "[Camelot] can still do the Irish Derby, the Juddmonte and the St Leger and I am doing the Sussex Stakes and [then] three weeks after the Juddmonte. He is doing the Irish Derby and a longer break before the Juddmonte and can still go and do the Leger.
"Hopefully [Camelot] will go for the Juddmonte and I would love it because it would be exciting," Cecil told At The Races.
Frankel beat old foe Excelebration by five lengths on his reappearance at Newbury in the Lockinge Stakes last month and Cecil expects him to improve for that outing.
"I am not saying he is going to be but he could be [3 or 4lb better]," the legendary trainer said.
"I think he is better, he is stronger this year. I didn't push him but I have never pushed him for his first race anyway, as a two-year-old, a three-year-old or four-year-old. Like a lot of trainers we don't have them 100 per cent first time out, that is just the beginning.
Looking ahead to the rest of the season, Cecil continued: "He has got important engagements as the season goes on and the main thing is as long as he can win, let's hope he can win well, it does not matter if it is two lengths or ten lengths.
"The Juddmonte will be the most interesting as he is going another two and a half furlongs and he is going against different horses."
Give everything but up!
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Ou Ryperd
-
- New Member
-
- Thanks: 0
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Bob Brogan
-
- Administrator
-
- Posts: 82472
- Thanks: 6448
Re: Re: Frankel Vs Camelot in August?
12 years 11 months ago
I did Suggest this exact race over a week ago (
) #greatminds

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- ShezaPunter
-
- New Member
-
- Thanks: 0
Re: Re: Frankel Vs Camelot in August?
12 years 11 months ago
Frankel will be the new King of castle Camelot
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Marsellus Wallace
-
- Platinum Member
-
- Posts: 3350
- Thanks: 140
Re: Re: Frankel Vs Camelot in August?
12 years 11 months ago
Watching Camelot was like watching a movie, this horse will make Frankel look ordinary.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Bob Brogan
-
- Administrator
-
- Posts: 82472
- Thanks: 6448
Re: Re: Frankel Vs Camelot in August?
12 years 11 months ago
Frankel has a stone in hand on official ratings,and Cecil thinks he can only get better at the Juddmonte trip.Camelot`s best rating was gained winning over a trip 400m further than the Juddmonte trip
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Titch
-
Topic Author
- Platinum Member
-
- Posts: 9397
- Thanks: 366
Re: Re: Frankel Vs Camelot in August?
12 years 11 months ago
I will take some swingers and enjoy the race

Give everything but up!
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Dave Scott
-
- Administrator
-
- Posts: 43867
- Thanks: 3338
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Craig Eudey
-
- Platinum Member
-
- Posts: 4561
- Thanks: 559
Re: Re: Frankel Vs Camelot in August?
12 years 11 months ago
Great race if it comes off but I think Frankel will be too strong.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Mavourneen
-
- New Member
-
- Thanks: 0
Re: Re: Frankel Vs Camelot in August?
12 years 11 months ago
hibernia Wrote:
> I did Suggest this exact race over a week ago (
)
> #greatminds
Hibs you make me laugh sometimes, really you do!
What yummy thought, though, a Frankel-Camelot clash. If it comes off, it will be the racing event of the year, sjoe! The course officials must be crossing every finger and holding every thumb they have, that it does ... they will get humungous attendance figures.
Talking of which, what would be the date of the (possible) Event? I will be in England in July and part of August ... would be exciting to go see this myself if it does happen.
> I did Suggest this exact race over a week ago (

> #greatminds
Hibs you make me laugh sometimes, really you do!
What yummy thought, though, a Frankel-Camelot clash. If it comes off, it will be the racing event of the year, sjoe! The course officials must be crossing every finger and holding every thumb they have, that it does ... they will get humungous attendance figures.
Talking of which, what would be the date of the (possible) Event? I will be in England in July and part of August ... would be exciting to go see this myself if it does happen.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Bob Brogan
-
- Administrator
-
- Posts: 82472
- Thanks: 6448
Re: Re: Frankel Vs Camelot in August?
12 years 11 months ago
Hey Mav the Juddmonte is held at York on the 22nd August
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Mavourneen
-
- New Member
-
- Thanks: 0
Re: Re: Frankel Vs Camelot in August?
12 years 11 months ago
Agh, blikkies, bleh! ... have to be back before then.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Time to create page: 0.109 seconds