Timeforms Best Ratings Of All Time
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Timeforms Best Ratings Of All Time
12 years 11 months ago
Interesting to note that according to the Timeform scale only 13 horses qualify as outstanding according to their ratings.
Timeform ratings for 3-year-olds & up are as follows:
140+ – An outstanding horse
130–135 – Above average Group 1 winner
125–129 – Average Group 1 winner
115–120 – Average Group 2 winner
110–115 – Average Group 3 winner
100–105 – Average listed race winner
Horse Born Rating
Frankel 2008 147
Sea Bird 1962 145
Brigadier Gerard 1968 144
Tudor Minstrel 1944 144
Abernant 1946 142
Ribot 1952 142
Mill Reef 1968 141
Dancing Brave 1983 140
Dubai Millennium 1996 140
Harbinger 2006 140
Sea The Stars 2006 140
Shergar 1978 140
Vaguely Noble 1965 140
Generous 1988 139
Pappa Fourway 1952 139
Reference Point 1984 139
Alleged 1974 138
Alycidon 1945 138
Celtic Swing 1992 138
Cigar 1990 138
Daylami 1994 138
Exbury 1959 138
Nijinsky 1967 138
Star of India 1953 138
Tulloch 1954 138
Easy Goer 1986 137
Sunday Silence 1986 137
Apalachee 1971 137
Dayjur 1987 137
Ghostzapper 2000 137
Grundy 1972 137
Kingston Town 1976 137
Mark of Esteem 1993 137
Molvedo 1958 137
Montjeu 1996 137
Moorestyle 1977 137
Never Say Die 1951 137
Peintre Celebre 1994 137
Pinza 1950 137
Princely Gift 1951 137
Ragusa 1960 137
Rheingold 1969 137
Reliance 1962 137
Right Boy 1954 137
Troy 1976 137
Zilzal 1986 137
Alcide 1955 136
Allez France 1970 136
Ballymoss 1954 136
Bering 1983 136
Black Tarquin 1945 136
Bustino 1971 136
Crepello 1954 136
El Condor Pasa 1995 136
El Gran Senor 1981 136
Floribunda 1958 136
Gentlemen 1992 136
Habibti 1980 136
Hafiz 1952 136
Hawk Wing 1999 136
Helissio 1993 136
Herbager 1956 136
My Babu 1945 136
Manikato 1975 136
Northjet 1977 136
Old Vic 1986 136
Relko 1960 136
Slip Anchor 1982 136
Suave Dancer 1988 136
Sakhee 1997 136
Tantieme 1947 136
Texana 1955 136
Thatch 1970 136
Warning 1985 136
All Along 1979 135
Arazi 1989 135
Arbar 1944 135
Arctic Prince 1948 135
Black Caviar 2006 136
Chanteur 1942 135
Charlottesville 1957 135
Coronation 1946 135
Dahlia 1970 135
Intikhab 1994 135
Known Fact 1977 135
Kris 1976 135
La Tendresse 1959 135
Le Moss 1975 135
Match II 1958 135
Nashwan 1986 135
Never So Bold 1980 135
Pebbles 1981 135
Petingo 1965 135
Petoski 1982 135
Right Royal 1958 135
Royal Anthem 1995 135
Sagace 1980 135
Sassafras 1967 135
Shadeed 1982 135
Shahrastani 1983 135
Shareef Dancer 1980 135
Sicambre 1948 135
Sir Ivor 1965 135
Souverain 1943 135
St Jovite 1989 135
Supreme Court 1948 135
Teenoso 1980 135
Tenerani 1944 135
The Bug 1943 135
The Minstrel 1974 135
Trempolino 1984 135
Youth 1973 135
Timeform ratings for 3-year-olds & up are as follows:
140+ – An outstanding horse
130–135 – Above average Group 1 winner
125–129 – Average Group 1 winner
115–120 – Average Group 2 winner
110–115 – Average Group 3 winner
100–105 – Average listed race winner
Horse Born Rating
Frankel 2008 147
Sea Bird 1962 145
Brigadier Gerard 1968 144
Tudor Minstrel 1944 144
Abernant 1946 142
Ribot 1952 142
Mill Reef 1968 141
Dancing Brave 1983 140
Dubai Millennium 1996 140
Harbinger 2006 140
Sea The Stars 2006 140
Shergar 1978 140
Vaguely Noble 1965 140
Generous 1988 139
Pappa Fourway 1952 139
Reference Point 1984 139
Alleged 1974 138
Alycidon 1945 138
Celtic Swing 1992 138
Cigar 1990 138
Daylami 1994 138
Exbury 1959 138
Nijinsky 1967 138
Star of India 1953 138
Tulloch 1954 138
Easy Goer 1986 137
Sunday Silence 1986 137
Apalachee 1971 137
Dayjur 1987 137
Ghostzapper 2000 137
Grundy 1972 137
Kingston Town 1976 137
Mark of Esteem 1993 137
Molvedo 1958 137
Montjeu 1996 137
Moorestyle 1977 137
Never Say Die 1951 137
Peintre Celebre 1994 137
Pinza 1950 137
Princely Gift 1951 137
Ragusa 1960 137
Rheingold 1969 137
Reliance 1962 137
Right Boy 1954 137
Troy 1976 137
Zilzal 1986 137
Alcide 1955 136
Allez France 1970 136
Ballymoss 1954 136
Bering 1983 136
Black Tarquin 1945 136
Bustino 1971 136
Crepello 1954 136
El Condor Pasa 1995 136
El Gran Senor 1981 136
Floribunda 1958 136
Gentlemen 1992 136
Habibti 1980 136
Hafiz 1952 136
Hawk Wing 1999 136
Helissio 1993 136
Herbager 1956 136
My Babu 1945 136
Manikato 1975 136
Northjet 1977 136
Old Vic 1986 136
Relko 1960 136
Slip Anchor 1982 136
Suave Dancer 1988 136
Sakhee 1997 136
Tantieme 1947 136
Texana 1955 136
Thatch 1970 136
Warning 1985 136
All Along 1979 135
Arazi 1989 135
Arbar 1944 135
Arctic Prince 1948 135
Black Caviar 2006 136
Chanteur 1942 135
Charlottesville 1957 135
Coronation 1946 135
Dahlia 1970 135
Intikhab 1994 135
Known Fact 1977 135
Kris 1976 135
La Tendresse 1959 135
Le Moss 1975 135
Match II 1958 135
Nashwan 1986 135
Never So Bold 1980 135
Pebbles 1981 135
Petingo 1965 135
Petoski 1982 135
Right Royal 1958 135
Royal Anthem 1995 135
Sagace 1980 135
Sassafras 1967 135
Shadeed 1982 135
Shahrastani 1983 135
Shareef Dancer 1980 135
Sicambre 1948 135
Sir Ivor 1965 135
Souverain 1943 135
St Jovite 1989 135
Supreme Court 1948 135
Teenoso 1980 135
Tenerani 1944 135
The Bug 1943 135
The Minstrel 1974 135
Trempolino 1984 135
Youth 1973 135
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Re: Re: Timeforms Best Ratings Of All Time
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What a list ,would like to see the panel get 20 out of them for the July...
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Is there a reason Secretariat doesn't make the list I would have thought he would be higher than 135.
After what we saw yesterday he deserves his place on the top of that list. (tu)
After what we saw yesterday he deserves his place on the top of that list. (tu)
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Until very recently (generally after 2000), notable post-war horses who raced exclusively in America were never given Timeform ratings, so they can not be compared directly to their European counterparts.
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How do our MR values compare? Do we work on a different system?
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Yes, the MR rating scale is different.
MR's are much more in line with the ratings at the IFHA: www.horseracingintfed.com/resources/2012...gs/2012_0531_WTR.asp
They had Frankel at 138 (before this run), Excelebration at 125.
A rating of 115 or higher gets a horse on the annual list of top performances worldwide.
Last year, 116 would have ranked joint 190th, 115 was joint 248th, out of more than 200 000 starters.
So, 115 puts a horse in the top half a percent or so (roughly 1 in 200).
MR's are much more in line with the ratings at the IFHA: www.horseracingintfed.com/resources/2012...gs/2012_0531_WTR.asp
They had Frankel at 138 (before this run), Excelebration at 125.
A rating of 115 or higher gets a horse on the annual list of top performances worldwide.
Last year, 116 would have ranked joint 190th, 115 was joint 248th, out of more than 200 000 starters.
So, 115 puts a horse in the top half a percent or so (roughly 1 in 200).
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12 years 11 months ago
Igugu is rated at a MR of 117 on formgrids.com, what would her approximate Timeform rating be for example?
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Cheers JAP that list was a trip down memory lane (tu)
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Thanks Jap, great list, would have thought that Cigar was rated two points higher........ but an Amercian horse...
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brandhow Wrote:
> Igugu is rated at a MR of 117 on formgrids.com,
> what would her approximate Timeform rating be for
> example?
Hmm, I suppose you could add about 8 to 10 points but I'm just guessing.
That would put her in the "125–129 – Average Group 1 winner" range which is probably what Timeform would think of a top class GR1 winner in South Africa.
> Igugu is rated at a MR of 117 on formgrids.com,
> what would her approximate Timeform rating be for
> example?
Hmm, I suppose you could add about 8 to 10 points but I'm just guessing.
That would put her in the "125–129 – Average Group 1 winner" range which is probably what Timeform would think of a top class GR1 winner in South Africa.
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Tigershark Wrote:
> Thanks Jap, great list, would have thought that
> Cigar was rated two points higher
That's interesting. Why?
> Thanks Jap, great list, would have thought that
> Cigar was rated two points higher
That's interesting. Why?
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