The cloning of Horses becomes a reality ::o :(

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The cloning of Horses becomes a reality ::o :(

13 years 1 month ago
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British horse breeder Julia Harrison Lee may own dozens of horses, but her two favourites have a lot in common. Each of the handsome bays is solidly built, with a reddish-brown coat and white marks on its face.
They are so similar they could be the same horse; in fact, even a DNA test would not be able to tell them apart
Although one is 24 years old, and the other aged only 18 months, they match on a very basic level – the younger is an exact genetic copy of the other.
Harrison Lee took the decision to clone her distinguished veteran show jumper Romulus 16 when he retired – becoming the first British breeder to enter this controversial territory.
About the older animal, she says: “He is such wonderful horse. I worship him. He has scope, power, intelligence, and he’s such a careful jumper.
“By the time he was eight, he was jumping and winning at Grand Prix level – where fences can be five feet tall and six feet wide. Horses with that sort of capability are very rare.”
Romulus 16 – stable name Gerry – competed for the GB squad with the rider Damian Charles for six years, and was shortlisted for the Sydney Olympics.
With sterling bloodlines and a world-class track record, Gerry should be a very valuable breeding horse. But unfortunately, like many competition horses, he was castrated when young to calm his temperament.
This is a big problem in the equine world, where many of the best performing horses are geldings.
Breeders must often turn use the less talented half-brothers or sisters of the top horses as a proxy for breeding. But by creating an exact replica, Julia has found the best proxy of all.
The clone, dubbed 'Mini-Gerry’, is not guaranteed to be a champion jumper himself; even horses with exemplary breeding need top-quality training (and luck) to find success.
However Mini-Gerry can relax in the knowledge that the older horse has already proven that their shared genes hold enormous potential.
If the equestrian world will accept clones into the fold, then Harrison Lee has made a savvy investment: a top showjumping stallion can mate with more than 100 mares a year, earning his owners around £1000 a time. It cost her around €175,000 in total (£142,000) to reproduce Gerry.
With no one licensed to create clones commercially in the UK, she turned to Eric Palmer, of Cryozootech laboratories in Paris.
Palmer says: “There are two steps. Firstly we gain genetic material by taking a small biopsy of skin from the original horse. This works until a few hours after death.
“We then make a cell culture before freezing it in liquid nitrogen at -196C. At this stage, some people simply choose to store the DNA as a 'just in case’. You can freeze it for as long as you want – our contracts are renewed every 10 years.
“In the next step, when we actually come to create a clone, we take an egg – this can come from any mare – remove the genes inside and replace them with the genes of the animal you want to clone. We then fuse the cell, using electrical and chemical signals to prompt growth. The egg can then be transferred into the uterus of a surrogate mare.”
“It’s a problematic process still, and sometimes we will need several tries. In the case of Romulus 16, we were lucky on the second attempt.”
Mini-Gerry was born to an unrelated mare in the US, where Harrison Lee owns a successful showjumping yard.
“If I’m honest, I was dreading going to see Mini Gerry when he was born,” she admits. “I was worried he’d be weedy and weak, but when I got to the farm I found this little bouncy fellow, leaping and bucking and side kicking his mother. You wouldn’t have any idea that he is a clone.”
Her decision to push ahead with the technique was something of a calculated risk.
It was not until earlier this month [June] that the Fédération Equestre Internationale (FEI), showjumping’s governing body, gave the go ahead for clones and their progeny to compete at a professional level.
A decision was forced by growing numbers of sports horse clones.
Italian scientists cloned a horse for the first time in 2003, a mare named Prometea, and there are now more than 70 worldwide. The first foals from cloned showjumpers ET and Gem Twist were born earlier this year.
In the polo world clones are already permitted, and change hands for huge amounts of money.
A clone of Cuartetera, a top polo mare, fetched $800,000 (£490,000) at a Buenos Aires auction in 2010.
However, many of the biggest names in showjumping remain resistant. Only two major breeding registers, Studbook Zangersheide and the Anglo European Studbook, will accept clones onto their books.
Tom Reed, breeding director of the Warmblood Studbook of Ireland, said: “We will never accept clones and their descendants, irrespective of what the FEI and other stud books do. We should be breeding horses and not manufacturing them in laboratories.
“Do we really want to see a World Championship where the entrants are half a dozen clones of an Olympic gold-medallist and a couple of clones of a previous world champion?”
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I wonder if I could get Frankel cloned. >:D<

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I'm sure Mrs.O will love to get Horse Chestnut cloned, after all his full brother Fort Defiance never set the tracks alight.
The great Sentinel also had a full brother. I'm sure the one time winner Armed Guard will be in many memories?
The July winner Royal Chalice also had a full brother, name escapes me but was a 1 or 2 time winner.
Now is breeding a science or do horses make fools of men?

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13 years 1 month ago
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How about Pocket Power ... get past the gelding problem.

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Armed Guard ~ No Reprieve- Winters Eve I think finished up in PE ??
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Fort defiance was not horse chestnuts full brother

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Fort Defiance was his stable companion at the same age and along with Pablo Zeta would have been a champion in any other generation

i think his brothers were WhiteChapel and Royal Exchange

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WhiteChapel and Royal Exchange are full brothers to Horse Chestnut by Fort Wood ~ London Wall and Fort Defiance was by Fort Wood ~ Lily Of The Guard
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Re: Re: The cloning of Horses becomes a reality ::o :(

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How does one go about cloning oneself.....?

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Wow what an interesting story!

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I've always wanted to clone myself. I want to stay at home while I send my clone to my work....

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yeah Mac or you could play golf whilst your clone takes your wife out for lunch..lol

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