bet365 refuses to pay punter in Australia

Are there any jockeys involved???This racing is really going to the DOGS!

the poor stay poor, and the bookies stay rich.

hibernia Wrote:

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> Following heavy criticism on racing forums,
> Bet365, one of the world's biggest betting
> companies who have only been active in Australia
> for a short time, released a statement relating to
> the matter.
>
> "Following a steward's inquiry immediately
> following the race, two dogs in the race in
> question, including the favourite, were
> subsequently suspended for 28 days for 'failing to
> pursue' and Racing Queensland are conducting an
> integrity inquiry into the race," the statement
> read.



>
> RQ chief steward Wade Birch confirmed there is an
> investigation into the race, with a key element
> being
>
> the dogs which "failed to pursue", which are
> trained by Jonathan Daniel (Finished Forcer) and
> Andrew Wilkinson (Octane Moment).
>
> "Our investigations with Greyhound Racing New
> South Wales lead us to believe both of those
> greyhounds are kennelled at the registered
> property of Matthew Brunker," Mr Birch said.
>
> Stewards are investigating whether Matthew Brunker
> and Steve Brunker are related.
>
> Darwin-based Steve Brunker failed to return calls
> from The Courier-Mail yesterday.
>
> The Northern Territory Racing Commission (which
> licenses Bet365 in Australia) is also conducting
> inquiries.
>
> Bet365 have said they do not know when the
> inquiries will be completed and pending the
> outcome, it will be unable to comment further.


this has nothing to do with the punter, the result stands, like in SA if a horse gets disqualified for doping the pay outs on the original results still stands.

They are just trying to get out of paying the customer, unless they can prove that he knew about or was part of fraudulent transactions they are going to pay

JAMES BLOND Wrote:

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> hibernia Wrote:
>

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>

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> > Following heavy criticism on racing forums,
> > Bet365, one of the world's biggest betting
> > companies who have only been active in
> Australia
> > for a short time, released a statement relating
> to
> > the matter.
> >
> > "Following a steward's inquiry immediately
> > following the race, two dogs in the race in
> > question, including the favourite, were
> > subsequently suspended for 28 days for 'failing
> to
> > pursue' and Racing Queensland are conducting an
> > integrity inquiry into the race," the statement
> > read.
>
>
>
> >
> > RQ chief steward Wade Birch confirmed there is
> an
> > investigation into the race, with a key element
> > being
> >
> > the dogs which "failed to pursue", which are
> > trained by Jonathan Daniel (Finished Forcer)
> and
> > Andrew Wilkinson (Octane Moment).
> >
> > "Our investigations with Greyhound Racing New
> > South Wales lead us to believe both of those
> > greyhounds are kennelled at the registered
> > property of Matthew Brunker," Mr Birch said.
> >
> > Stewards are investigating whether Matthew
> Brunker
> > and Steve Brunker are related.
> >
> > Darwin-based Steve Brunker failed to return
> calls
> > from The Courier-Mail yesterday.
> >
> > The Northern Territory Racing Commission (which
> > licenses Bet365 in Australia) is also
> conducting
> > inquiries.
> >
> > Bet365 have said they do not know when the
> > inquiries will be completed and pending the
> > outcome, it will be unable to comment further.
>
>
> this has nothing to do with the punter, the result
> stands, like in SA if a horse gets disqualified
> for doping the pay outs on the original results
> still stands.
>
> They are just trying to get out of paying the
> customer, unless they can prove that he knew about
> or was part of fraudulent transactions they are
> going to pay


bull shit, if the trainer of the dog that refused to chase is proven to be related to the guy that had the bets then the race should be declared void.. or for betting purposes

hibernia Wrote:

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> JAMES BLOND Wrote:
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> > hibernia Wrote:
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> > > Following heavy criticism on racing forums,
> > > Bet365, one of the world's biggest betting
> > > companies who have only been active in
> > Australia
> > > for a short time, released a statement
> relating
> > to
> > > the matter.
> > >
> > > "Following a steward's inquiry immediately
> > > following the race, two dogs in the race in
> > > question, including the favourite, were
> > > subsequently suspended for 28 days for
> 'failing
> > to
> > > pursue' and Racing Queensland are conducting
> an
> > > integrity inquiry into the race," the
> statement
> > > read.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > RQ chief steward Wade Birch confirmed there
> is
> > an
> > > investigation into the race, with a key
> element
> > > being
> > >
> > > the dogs which "failed to pursue", which are
> > > trained by Jonathan Daniel (Finished Forcer)
> > and
> > > Andrew Wilkinson (Octane Moment).
> > >
> > > "Our investigations with Greyhound Racing New
> > > South Wales lead us to believe both of those
> > > greyhounds are kennelled at the registered
> > > property of Matthew Brunker," Mr Birch said.
> > >
> > > Stewards are investigating whether Matthew
> > Brunker
> > > and Steve Brunker are related.
> > >
> > > Darwin-based Steve Brunker failed to return
> > calls
> > > from The Courier-Mail yesterday.
> > >
> > > The Northern Territory Racing Commission
> (which
> > > licenses Bet365 in Australia) is also
> > conducting
> > > inquiries.
> > >
> > > Bet365 have said they do not know when the
> > > inquiries will be completed and pending the
> > > outcome, it will be unable to comment
> further.
> >
> >
> > this has nothing to do with the punter, the
> result
> > stands, like in SA if a horse gets disqualified
> > for doping the pay outs on the original results
> > still stands.
> >
> > They are just trying to get out of paying the
> > customer, unless they can prove that he knew
> about
> > or was part of fraudulent transactions they are
> > going to pay
>
>
> bull shit, if the trainer of the dog that refused
> to chase is proven to be related to the guy that
> had the bets then the race should be declared
> void.. or for betting purposes


If he is related it stinks,i bet he wished he took the money Bet 365 offered...
Bob,do you remember that Lucky 15 i had with them that paid a large sum,
it took them about 2 weeks to pay me,i had to send photo-copies of my passport
and they started to ask me all sorts of questions,All 4 horses were from different
stables and they tried to wriggle out of it. I told them if it wasnt in my account
within 5 days i would contact IBAS and speak to a friend at The Racing Post.
They paid out and next time i tried to have a bet they offered me a 10pence ew
Lucky 15....Jokers

It is irrelevant anyway because Bet 365 have to pay out on the result, not some fantasy result.
The TAB';s all paid out on the result, and Bet365 took the bet, then changed their conditions.
They are total scum.

hibernia Wrote:

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> JAMES BLOND Wrote:
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> > hibernia Wrote:
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> >

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> > > Following heavy criticism on racing forums,
> > > Bet365, one of the world's biggest betting
> > > companies who have only been active in
> > Australia
> > > for a short time, released a statement
> relating
> > to
> > > the matter.
> > >
> > > "Following a steward's inquiry immediately
> > > following the race, two dogs in the race in
> > > question, including the favourite, were
> > > subsequently suspended for 28 days for
> 'failing
> > to
> > > pursue' and Racing Queensland are conducting
> an
> > > integrity inquiry into the race," the
> statement
> > > read.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > RQ chief steward Wade Birch confirmed there
> is
> > an
> > > investigation into the race, with a key
> element
> > > being
> > >
> > > the dogs which "failed to pursue", which are
> > > trained by Jonathan Daniel (Finished Forcer)
> > and
> > > Andrew Wilkinson (Octane Moment).
> > >
> > > "Our investigations with Greyhound Racing New
> > > South Wales lead us to believe both of those
> > > greyhounds are kennelled at the registered
> > > property of Matthew Brunker," Mr Birch said.
> > >
> > > Stewards are investigating whether Matthew
> > Brunker
> > > and Steve Brunker are related.
> > >
> > > Darwin-based Steve Brunker failed to return
> > calls
> > > from The Courier-Mail yesterday.
> > >
> > > The Northern Territory Racing Commission
> (which
> > > licenses Bet365 in Australia) is also
> > conducting
> > > inquiries.
> > >
> > > Bet365 have said they do not know when the
> > > inquiries will be completed and pending the
> > > outcome, it will be unable to comment
> further.
> >
> >
> > this has nothing to do with the punter, the
> result
> > stands, like in SA if a horse gets disqualified
> > for doping the pay outs on the original results
> > still stands.
> >
> > They are just trying to get out of paying the
> > customer, unless they can prove that he knew
> about
> > or was part of fraudulent transactions they are
> > going to pay
>
>
> bull shit, if the trainer of the dog that refused
> to chase is proven to be related to the guy that
> had the bets then the race should be declared
> void.. or for betting purposes

HIBS why are you saying bull shirt because that is excactly what I said :S

question; I know nothing about dog racing how do you get a dog not to chase?
I mean his instinct is to go full out once the gate open or are their also "tricks" that you can do that your dog is not going full out or not a trier?

You can do many things to stop a dog,feed them,egg their skins,cotton wool in their ears so they miss the break vaseline their eyes etc etc

hibernia Wrote:

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> You can do many things to stop a dog,feed them,egg
> their skins,cotton wool in their ears so they miss
> the break vaseline their eyes etc etc

You taking the piss or you serious about those methods used to stop dogs?

How do you stop a dog barking ? Apparently if you smear vaseline on the mutts arse it can't get compression ? so no noise comes out ??

[ sorry ]

is australia the same as us when the result is posted and all clear it is final?

this is all non sense, if the race was crooked then that is a seperate thing and investigation, the bookie must still pay the punter