who would ride for your life?
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Re: Re: who would ride for your life?
12 years 11 months ago
Fayd'herbe and Marcus are the best in SA
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Re: Re: who would ride for your life?
12 years 11 months ago
i posted this a month ago
THIS IS MY FEW IN A DISCUSSION ON WHO IS OUR BEST JOCKEY
(THIS IS MY VIEW)
now from a fool that thinks I know everything and yes i know...going to get blasted by the "experts" but this is my view and i would love to here your views
to compare last year top 3 jockeys delpech,lerena and marcus with striker
delpech-can only win with 5/1 and shorter priced horses that runs handy or just of the pace...long way behind other 3 jocks on ability .good on milers and stayers.never lost when i didnt put him in my exotics on a frontrunner (except Igugu) or a horse that comes from way back (i know viva maria won at 50/1 ....blinde hoender het n mielie raak gepik...and i had ilha bela as pick 6 banker)
lerena-best value for money if you compare the odds of his winning rides compared to other 3 jocks.can ride sprinters to stayers and good from of the pace and from the back,know how to get in front before the finish line and keep in front.can never leave him out of exotics if he rides a 16/1 or shorter
marcus-best ride of his life......JAY PEG in Dubai Duty free.....(one of the best rides i ever seen).best jockey in south africa on a front runner.also very good from just of the pace.ride mostly favorites and the shortest odds horses on average in south africa,not the best value for money for the odds and winning average.not good from way back but good judge of pace especially when going to the front.
Strydom-best judge of pace in south africa....by a margin and by far best tactical rider,especially in big races.brilliant from the front or 50 lenghs back.can win any race if in the mood even on a donkey but unreliable,the jockey that cost most punters some big money on short priced favorites ,but how many times did you say he cant win the race and the next thing he surprise you....(now you all are smiling,he caught you also hahahahaha).never never leave him out,even when he is on a horse your "insider" said have no chance.in the past by far the greatest jockey ever in our country from way of the pace ,but the last 10 years he is brilliant on frontrunners or gallopers (his 2 best rides when going against our best jocks was LONDON NEWS and POMODORO ,no other jockey would have won the JULY on the 2 horses).never leave him out in a big race,but dont feel too bad if you accidently left him out in exotics on an even-money fav in a maiden plate or low handicap.the jockey with the most ever last stride wins and like lerena,loves to win for the smaller yards
who i will pick to ride for me in a maiden or low handicap=frontrunner or handy-MARCUS. way of the pace-LERENA
who i will pick to ride for me in a grade 1- frontrunner,handy or from the back-PIERRE STRIKER STRYDOM
But if you ask me who i can choose to ride for my life,then it would be Handbrake RHYS van wyk....he became my ultimate hero when he rode back in 1996 our filly NORTH RARE at Germiston...
Van Wyk won the first 2 races on the card on a 10/1 and 16/1 and was on a hatrick on our filly starting at 12/1 ....the fav in the race was mill foil and she have beaten our filly by 4 lenghs or more on ALL 6 PREVIOUS ENCOUNTERS between the 2....my dad asked Rhys if we have a chance and his reply was "I NEED TO WIN THIS RACE".....it was 1000m straight and drawn against the outside rail....They jump and rhys went like a bullet....4 lenghs clear at the 800m....3 lenghs at the 400m ......a neck in front at the 200m with mill foil closing fast.....still a long head in front at the finish...and he nearly fell off when crossing the line.....THE FIRST TIME EVER MY DAD LET ME LEAD A WINNER INTO THE WINNERS ENCLOSURE....BEST DAY OF MY LIFE.....rhys was got his hatrick and was booked off for the rest of the meeting....Oom nick told my dad someone made about 3 million that day in a betting coup ....wonder who....we met rhys afterwords during the meeting and had a few drinks with him upstairs....he rode for his life that day
THIS IS MY FEW IN A DISCUSSION ON WHO IS OUR BEST JOCKEY
(THIS IS MY VIEW)
now from a fool that thinks I know everything and yes i know...going to get blasted by the "experts" but this is my view and i would love to here your views
to compare last year top 3 jockeys delpech,lerena and marcus with striker
delpech-can only win with 5/1 and shorter priced horses that runs handy or just of the pace...long way behind other 3 jocks on ability .good on milers and stayers.never lost when i didnt put him in my exotics on a frontrunner (except Igugu) or a horse that comes from way back (i know viva maria won at 50/1 ....blinde hoender het n mielie raak gepik...and i had ilha bela as pick 6 banker)
lerena-best value for money if you compare the odds of his winning rides compared to other 3 jocks.can ride sprinters to stayers and good from of the pace and from the back,know how to get in front before the finish line and keep in front.can never leave him out of exotics if he rides a 16/1 or shorter
marcus-best ride of his life......JAY PEG in Dubai Duty free.....(one of the best rides i ever seen).best jockey in south africa on a front runner.also very good from just of the pace.ride mostly favorites and the shortest odds horses on average in south africa,not the best value for money for the odds and winning average.not good from way back but good judge of pace especially when going to the front.
Strydom-best judge of pace in south africa....by a margin and by far best tactical rider,especially in big races.brilliant from the front or 50 lenghs back.can win any race if in the mood even on a donkey but unreliable,the jockey that cost most punters some big money on short priced favorites ,but how many times did you say he cant win the race and the next thing he surprise you....(now you all are smiling,he caught you also hahahahaha).never never leave him out,even when he is on a horse your "insider" said have no chance.in the past by far the greatest jockey ever in our country from way of the pace ,but the last 10 years he is brilliant on frontrunners or gallopers (his 2 best rides when going against our best jocks was LONDON NEWS and POMODORO ,no other jockey would have won the JULY on the 2 horses).never leave him out in a big race,but dont feel too bad if you accidently left him out in exotics on an even-money fav in a maiden plate or low handicap.the jockey with the most ever last stride wins and like lerena,loves to win for the smaller yards
who i will pick to ride for me in a maiden or low handicap=frontrunner or handy-MARCUS. way of the pace-LERENA
who i will pick to ride for me in a grade 1- frontrunner,handy or from the back-PIERRE STRIKER STRYDOM
But if you ask me who i can choose to ride for my life,then it would be Handbrake RHYS van wyk....he became my ultimate hero when he rode back in 1996 our filly NORTH RARE at Germiston...
Van Wyk won the first 2 races on the card on a 10/1 and 16/1 and was on a hatrick on our filly starting at 12/1 ....the fav in the race was mill foil and she have beaten our filly by 4 lenghs or more on ALL 6 PREVIOUS ENCOUNTERS between the 2....my dad asked Rhys if we have a chance and his reply was "I NEED TO WIN THIS RACE".....it was 1000m straight and drawn against the outside rail....They jump and rhys went like a bullet....4 lenghs clear at the 800m....3 lenghs at the 400m ......a neck in front at the 200m with mill foil closing fast.....still a long head in front at the finish...and he nearly fell off when crossing the line.....THE FIRST TIME EVER MY DAD LET ME LEAD A WINNER INTO THE WINNERS ENCLOSURE....BEST DAY OF MY LIFE.....rhys was got his hatrick and was booked off for the rest of the meeting....Oom nick told my dad someone made about 3 million that day in a betting coup ....wonder who....we met rhys afterwords during the meeting and had a few drinks with him upstairs....he rode for his life that day
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Re: Re: who would ride for your life?
12 years 11 months ago
Tero Wrote:
> Fayd'herbe and Marcus are the best in SA
For me Marcus.
I keep coming to a Maiden Plate race (yes a lowly maiden race) when Putinka won her maiden.
With 200m to go, she had NO chance. Not even in the first 4.
Check that re-run. I am amazed it was not even nominated as a ride of the month.
There was lots of money riding on that one.
> Fayd'herbe and Marcus are the best in SA
For me Marcus.
I keep coming to a Maiden Plate race (yes a lowly maiden race) when Putinka won her maiden.
With 200m to go, she had NO chance. Not even in the first 4.
Check that re-run. I am amazed it was not even nominated as a ride of the month.
There was lots of money riding on that one.
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Re: Re: who would ride for your life?
12 years 11 months ago
Agree with Easy, no worries if the money was down - Jimmy Anderson
Current crop, hard to argue against Anton, he has great strike rate.
I think it was Figgy who said in interview after he retired that of the jockeys he raced against, Anton was the strongest, but Striker was the cleverest. Probably true.
Current crop, hard to argue against Anton, he has great strike rate.
I think it was Figgy who said in interview after he retired that of the jockeys he raced against, Anton was the strongest, but Striker was the cleverest. Probably true.
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Re: Re: who would ride for your life?
12 years 11 months ago
And a very underrated jock imo is Marthinus Mienie.
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Re: Re: who would ride for your life?
12 years 11 months ago
The ride on jay peg.
The ride on dylans promise to come back n beat lizzy something from van zyl yard.
Marcus cn pull me out of I.c.u anytime.
SUPERMAN is BOSS.
The ride on dylans promise to come back n beat lizzy something from van zyl yard.
Marcus cn pull me out of I.c.u anytime.
SUPERMAN is BOSS.
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Re: Re: who would ride for your life?
12 years 11 months ago
Jimmy Anderson was a great jock, but a bit too inconsistent to rate the best, IMO. I think it's too difficult to rate the jocks across the generations and name any one as the best. We have been blessed with great personalities in South Africa.(tu)
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Re: Re: who would ride for your life?
12 years 11 months ago
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he was not the best but for your life or when the money was down boet even with 4 dumpies in him he got it home.....
as for dougie whyte he for me is the man, simply the best
he was not the best but for your life or when the money was down boet even with 4 dumpies in him he got it home.....
as for dougie whyte he for me is the man, simply the best
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Re: Re: who would ride for your life?
12 years 11 months ago
One top jockey ( imo ) whom we all seem to forget is Mark Khan. Rode some fantastic winners for Woodroffe and others as well.
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Re: Re: who would ride for your life?
12 years 11 months ago
Wayne Agrella when the money is down (tu)
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Re: Re: who would ride for your life?
12 years 11 months ago
easy Wrote:
> piro
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> he was not the best but for your life or when the
> money was down boet even with 4 dumpies in him he
> got it home.....
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> as for dougie whyte he for me is the man, simply
> the best
I was a kid when he rode, not a role model, but everyone has their demons (was always a gentleman though). I regarded him as reckless...but a great jock none the less. Douglas Roper was my ideal jockey, and then Billy Harvey, Eric Chapman and Grant Kotzen were jockeys from my era, who were unfortunate too.
> piro
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> he was not the best but for your life or when the
> money was down boet even with 4 dumpies in him he
> got it home.....
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> as for dougie whyte he for me is the man, simply
> the best
I was a kid when he rode, not a role model, but everyone has their demons (was always a gentleman though). I regarded him as reckless...but a great jock none the less. Douglas Roper was my ideal jockey, and then Billy Harvey, Eric Chapman and Grant Kotzen were jockeys from my era, who were unfortunate too.
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