Maybe its time to speak up about Untrusted/unfaithful trainers

Zietsman Oosthuizen Wrote:

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> this is directed to every single Pe and Kimberley
> trainers ,except Tara and Dorrie,they will give
> you a headsup on fancies and know whats actually
> going on in their respective
> stables.............................that place
> flambingo ,arssholingtin and Unfairview is no
> place to punt per race,not even the trainers know
> if their horses have winning chances or if the
> trainer tells you this is unbeatable you can put a
> line through......farking skelms,and one of them
> was today at Kimberley,telling 2 different owners
> in his stable 2 different stories about the horses
> chances,losing with all 3 bankers and winning with
> 2 that he only gave a small place chance to the
> one owner and selected both first for the other
> owner with other selections to follow.....ripping
> of some owners and lots of punters......would like
> to know how much profit some trainers make by
> putting owners and trainers on certain selections
> just to come win with the "unfancied but backed at
> long odds or after it drifted just before race
> time" selections.....i dont talk from my
> pocket....i talk facts....want me to give names?
>
>
>
> How many times did some owners get rolled over by
> untrusted trainers.......is it not time to speak
> up about them if we have the prove and facts?
>
> then they can come explain also here on the forum
> their side if they are innocent or their side if
> they really want to clear their bad reputation
> ......

What a difference a year makes. Good luck Ziets

some time in life the wheel do the full rotation and now ziets find he must face up to the people he accused of cheeting. i wonder how he will treat cliff miller when he see him? i woner if he would rather prefer he dont write the bul lshit he do one year ago. any ways like i say is a young man who thenk he now it all i have the feeling he see thing a lot diferent today (tu)

good luck ziets i have the feel you need it

I must say I know of two guys who were playing golf together..both had a horse (different horses) with the same trainer running in the same race...they each got an sms within a couple of minutes of each other by the same trainer to say their horse could not lose!! Neither horse won and neither owner is with that trainer anymore.

Wasn't me ,I don't have enough horses for 2 in a race()

Ziets geluk met die tweede plek vandag "close but no cigar"

hopelik een beter volgende keer

So now Zietsman is an assistant trainer in Kimberly and all is forgotten... Interesting to see how you deal with criticism now.... Heres one for you.... DARE To Be Grand was in top co dition when it reached you guys from Botes.... Its condition wont be same hereafter... I would like to eat my words if it wins.....

Venodh Wrote:

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> So now Zietsman is an assistant trainer in
> Kimberly and all is forgotten... Interesting to
> see how you deal with criticism now.... Heres one
> for you.... DARE To Be Grand was in top co dition
> when it reached you guys from Botes.... Its
> condition wont be same hereafter... I would like
> to eat my words if it wins.....

That's a bit of a harsh thing2 say.
Personal attack me thinks.

Guys guys fact is we are dealing with animals not machines I owned over 60 horses won a GR1.2.3 over 50 winners raced in all the provinces except Cape had my colours since 1988 small in the game we love -had horses with at least 16 trainers in different provinces .I have not in all this time had one trainer that said put the lights out except........................Fritz Roux none of the other trainers could label one -Also difficult for me as a owner give u guys confidence I can only tell you what the trainer tells me in many cases I sit 1000km from the horse.so if trainer feeds me buulshit that is what I tell people.For those that say it is not true that trainers dont tip more than one horse per race wake up it is fact it happens every day,how mant jocks dont do it as well??When I still went racing in Bloem Dawid Kuit sat in the car with me must have received 50 plus calls on the way and he gave at least 8 different horses in one race and he marked in his book who he gave which one too,I asked him why he told me so that I can collect my chop afterwards.Those in denial that the bullshitting take place wake up (that is why I am phasing out and getting out).I am not interested in controversy but appreciate people like the Shams they are few and far in between in racing.

bignic we must get to gether and swap the stories re, we write the book after wards -D

Flash Harry Wrote:

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> bignic we must get to gether and swap the stories
> re, we write the book after wards -D


I will write the book Flash.... maybe invite Titch now and again... The Good I am sure can add lots of spice...
Could have a best seller on our hands.

there was one trainer that could really lable them - Nick van Tonder

listen to the tips on ABC... (tu)