PE Race 7???

like giving a goal keeper a red card and not awarding a penalty!...... pretty brain dead, if the stipes saw no reason to change the result , why the suspension? it was clear as daylight that the result should have been changed!

@Sham Racing:

Why not the punters, owners, jockeys and trainers start a 'palace revolution'?

* For starters, after acceptances, owners 'withdraw' Authority to Act from their trainer and have their horse/s scratched!

If 20 owners do that, there will be action and consistency, the first paper thin threat 'bringing the industry into disrepute'!

* At least 3 jockeys stand down just before a race is to run....any excuse...dehydration, hangover, upset tummy....!

* A team of at least 20 punters queue behind one another with R6.00 bet tickets at the tote windows and cancel their bets just before the start, taking their time about making sure it's the correct ticket from a dozen others in the pocket!

* A trainer or two cannot be at the racetrack due to an 'emergency' and has nobody to act for him on-course besides an illiterate groom! The horse/s scratched as ID not handed in!

I forget, who will come forth to bell the cat?

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Gavinv...if you had to be a starter....you would be a good one....
if you had to be a handler...you would be a good one....etc... etc...(tu)

umlilo Wrote:

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> @Sham Racing:
>
> Why not the punters, owners, jockeys and trainers
> start a 'palace revolution'?
>
> * For starters, after acceptances, owners
> 'withdraw' Authority to Act from their trainer and
> have their horse/s scratched!
>
> If 20 owners do that, there will be action and
> consistency, the first paper thin threat 'bringing
> the industry into disrepute'!
>
> * At least 3 jockeys stand down just before a race
> is to run....any excuse...dehydration, hangover,
> upset tummy....!
>
> * A team of at least 20 punters queue behind one
> another with R6.00 bet tickets at the tote windows
> and cancel their bets just before the start,
> taking their time about making sure it's the
> correct ticket from a dozen others in the pocket!
>
> * A trainer or two cannot be at the racetrack due
> to an 'emergency' and has nobody to act for him
> on-course besides an illiterate groom! The horse/s
> scratched as ID not handed in!
>
> I forget, who will come forth to bell the cat?
>
> ()

two rights cannot make a wrong....

Another first class fark up...(td)

Guys not 100percent sure while there is clearly interference I thought the rule was that the the stipes only look at the horse who causes interference and the one that is interfered with and then has to decide if the horse that suffered interference could have beaten the one that caused the trouble. In this case would the 4 th horse have beaten the winner . I don't think they look at the interference to improve the horses placing from 4 th to 3 rd . The only way that result could be changed is if the stipes feel that the fourth horse could have beaten the winner. IT'S A LONG TIME SINCE I WAS INVOLVED AND I DON'T HAVE THE CURRENT RULE BOOK IN FRONT OF ME SO I COULD BE TOTALLY WRONG. I'm sure someone will correct me if that is so.

who suppose to monitor the Stipes, are they LAW on the own.
Gavin V becareful the Stipes in PE will suspend you .
go Gavin tell it like you see it .

Bloodshot you're correct. Who here is certain that the 4th horse would've BEATEN the winner but for the interference? Nobody. Correct call was made in that the result should stand, that's according to the rules.

this RULE is not confirmed, such OBJECTION
shall lapse. The following constitute
grounds of OBJECTION in terms of this RULE:
68.2.1
that the RACE was run over the wrong distance;
68.2.2
that the RACE was run over the wrong course;
68.2.3
that the start was in front of the starting post;
68.2.4
tha
t the RACE was started before the appointed time;
68.2.5
that the judge or his authorised substitute was not in his box at the time the
HORSES passed the winning post and it is not possible to determine the result of
the RACE from a FILM or photograph of t
he finish of the RACE;
68.2.6
bumping, boring, crossing, jostling or other interference, intimidation or any other
action on the part of the HORSE or its RIDER during the running of the RACE;
68.2.7
that RULE 58.8, except RULE 58.8.5.1, has been contravene
d;
68.2.8
that the RIDER of a HORSE carried a crop of a type not permitted by the RULES;
68.2.9
that the RIDER of a HORSE carried a substitute for a crop;
68.2.10
that a decision by the clerk of the scales was incorrect;
68.2.11
that the RIDER of a HORSE w
hen weighing in was more than 0,5Kg below the
weight at which he was declared out;
68.2.12
that the RIDER failed to weigh in, except as provided for in RULE 66.2;
68.2.13
that an electric, electronic, galvanic or mechanical apparatus
, or equipment
prohibit
ed in terms of the RULES,
was used, directly or indirectly, on or in relation
to a HORSE in the RACE;
68.2.14
that a HORSE left the course during the running of a RACE;
68.2.15
that the HORSE ran in a RACE for which it was not entered, provided that nothin
g
shall derogate from the right to object on this ground in terms of RULE 68.3.
68.3
OBJECTIONS TO BE NOTIFIED WITHIN 10 DAYS
An OBJECTION under any of the undermentioned grounds may be lodged up to
12:00 on the 10th DAY after the RACE, provided that shou
ld any PERSON be aware
of any of these circumstances prior to the running of a RACE, he shall report such
circumstances to the SB:
68.3.1
that the OWNER or part
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OWNER or TRAINER or RIDER was a disqualified
PERSON or was not in receipt of the requisite PRIV
ILEGE;
68.3.2
that the HORSE was not qualified in terms of the conditions of the RACE;
68.3.3
that the HORSE was suspended;
68.3.4
that the HORSE ran in a RACE for which it was not entered;
68.3.5
that the entry contained a fraudulent or reckless misstatem
ent or omission;
68.3.6
that a contravention of any RULE relating to the REGISTRATION of
OWNERSHIPS, partnerships or leases had occurred;
68.3.7
that the HORSE carried less than the correct weight in terms of the advertised
conditions of the RACE save as p
rovided for in RULE 54.2.4.
69.
DECISIONS ON OBJECTIONS
69.1
Where an OBJECTION lodged in terms of RULE 68.1 is upheld, the OBJECTION
BOARD shall take such action as it deems fit.
69.2
Where an OBJECTION lodged in terms of RULES 68.2.1 to 68.2.5 is upheld,
the
matter shall be dealt with in terms of RULE 62.5 or RULE 62.6.
69.3
When an OBJECTION is lodged in terms of RULE 68.2.6. the OBJECTION shall not
be upheld unless the OBJECTION BOARD is satisfied that:
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69.3.1
a placed HORSE was interfered with by anot
her placed HORSE and/or its RIDER
during a RACE and the HORSE which was interfered with would, but for the
interference, have finished ahead of the HORSE which caused the interference, in
which event, the OBJECTION BOARD shall place the HORSE which caused
the
interference behind the HORSE which was interfered with or it may disqualify the
HORSE which caused the interference;
69.3.2
any HORSE in the RACE was interfered with by any other HORSE and/or its
RIDER and as a result of which the chances of the HORSE
interfered with were
jeopardised, the OBJECTION BOARD may, if it believes that the nature of the
interference w


I presume the Stipes saw the winner as the horse that caused the interference though the objection was also against the third horse(having only viwed the race twice I thought the third crossed and bumped the 4th horse but this MAY have been the rusult of the winner not keeping a straight course) - I thought that the 4th horse would have beaten the third horse(but how to you know for sure) ... bad Law- Interference and you are GONE is the best rule for me!!

MR H, your last line...Interference and you are GONE is the best rule for me!! ... was that not the rule they applied in SA before they changed it??

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BATMAN Wrote:

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> Straight after the race and even watching the head
> on i knew it would be overuled,the 4 th horse
> would never have beaten the winner,although as
> much as i wanted the result to change as i backed
> the second horse,i feal it was fair.


but the objection was against winner and third horse