money done in cold fcuking blood thks mr vee moodley

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12 years 2 months ago
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mr tipster myself and 2 others have taken tote bets with bookies for almost 10 years now and HAVE NEVER BEEN SUBJECT to any limit on a tote payout including carryovers and one ticketers so choose yr tote bookie correctly ..in fact one of them pays 4 percent over and above the tote payout so please go bark up another tree how fantastic yr employers are

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12 years 2 months ago
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tipster you keep on running bookies down but answer why does every punter who knows a bit keep on giving their business to them ?are they all stupid?yr employer sold their share in bettingworld but now want to get back into the bookmaking business i wonder why?

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12 years 2 months ago
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fc come down to greyville racecourse club tab and show me where the rules are up?thats the so called premier tote in natal

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Re: Re: money done in cold fcuking blood thks mr vee moodley

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6.6.3.3. A special draw to determine the result of a match will take place if: a match commences before the start of the pool; a match is not concluded by the end of the pool; interrupted match.
The result will be drawn from a pool of 16 lots and is a process done by a computer program that makes the draw under supervision of the Swedish Gaming Board. The result will be drawn from a pool consisting of: 10 lots determined by 10 individual expert predictions, 2 lots for Home Win, 2 lots for Draw, and 2 lots for Away Win.


What I understand by this rule if a game is postponed/cancelled and a stronger team is playing a weaker team, its most likely the stronger team will be declared the winner cos a selection of 10 tipsters are taken into consideration. So if a Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich are playing in their respective leagues and their game doesn't take place they most likely going to be declared the winner.

Yesterday games that was abandoned which were 5 of them 4 of the results went to the Team that was higher up on the league table. The game with Southend was the only game declared a draw altough they were higher up on the league but they were scheduled to play away.

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Re: Re: money done in cold fcuking blood thks mr vee moodley

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pirates Wrote:
> tipster you keep on running bookies down but
> answer why does every punter who knows a bit keep
> on giving their business to them ?are they all
> stupid?yr employer sold their share in
> bettingworld but now want to get back into the
> bookmaking business i wonder why?

I've never been against fixed odds betting and believe the punter should have a choice. However, the best scenario would be strong fixed odds betting and a strong Tote. In SA the former is not strong (bookmakers percentages are an absolute joke - even Hibernia would agree) and the Tote, which is one of the most sophisticated in the world (go and bet on the tote in Europe and see how far ahead ours is) is being watered down by the open bet, which btw is illegal in other countries. Therefore the pools for bets that should be the sole preserve of the Tote (i.e trifectas, quartets, pick 6 etc) are being weakened. The end result is bookmakers are getting a bigger and bigger slice of the pie. Nothing wromg with that except that BOOKMAKERS RETURNS TO RACING ARE STILL ABOUT 11% OF THE OPERATOR'S RETURNS. Understand now?

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12 years 2 months ago
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no please explain in afrikaans i dont understand your english

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12 years 2 months ago
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> no please explain in afrikaans i dont understand
> your english

Jy het geen antwoord vir dae feit soos gewoonlik.

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12 years 2 months ago
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we have been through yr pathetic reasoning before and i have repeated myself and others on here have repeated the answer a million times so i will let others answer you ...

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12 years 2 months ago
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Some interesting reading....



The payouts from successful win bets on the Tote will diminish significantly later this month, following a decision by the recently privatised pool-betting business to increase the deduction from its win pools by 22% from 22 October.

Totepool, which currently holds a monopoly licence to operate pool betting in Britain, was sold to the bookmaker Fred Done for £265m in June 2011. The company said on Tuesday that the sudden jump in the deductions from its win pools, from 13.5% to 16.5%, is designed to encourage "co-mingling" of bets from overseas punters in British pools to increase their overall strength and stability. There will also be a small cut in the deduction from two pools, the Exacta and Trifecta, from 26% to 25%.

The announcement marks a complete reversal of the last significant change to pool betting's payout structure in March 2003, when the takeout from the win pool was cut from 16% to 13.5%, also with the intention of improving the liquidity of the pools. The rise in totepool's takeout, previously among the lowest in the world, moves it closer to the figure which applies in countries such as South Africa, where the deduction from win pools is 20%, or Australia, where it is 16.5%.

However, the pari-mutuel systems, the equivalent of Britain's totepool, which operate in most major racing nations enjoy a monopoly on off-course betting, while in Britain pool betting faces fierce competition from both traditional bookmakers and, more recently, betting exchanges such as Betfair.

Phil Siers, managing director of totepool, insists that gamblers will eventually enjoy a much improved betting product as a result of the change. "This is a move which will benefit punters in the long term," he said. "We've had problems trying to get the big international totes co-mingling into ours because the rates are pretty different. What this will mean is that those customers who are betting with us will have a product that is much more stable.

"[At present], the guy who wants £1,000 on a 12.00 shot will invariably see it move from 12.00 to 6.00 or 5.00 [as a result of the bet distorting the pool]. With the extra money in the pools, the punter will find instead that they are getting 11.60.

"We would hope that co-mingling will improve annual overall take by between £100m and £200m, which is a very significant amount of money."

However, Peter Jones, the chairman of the Tote from 1997 to 2007, said that the jump in deductions is "a surprising thing to do".

"All the research we ever did suggested that the win pool is more elastic in its demand than the Trifecta and Exacta pools," Jones said. "We thought at the time [when the deduction was cut to 13.5%] that it was very much a matter of credibility and trying to maintain the Tote's presence in the market and its share of it. There is a segment of the racecourse market which is not price sensitive at all, but the off-course punter is much more value-conscious. It's a bit of a shame to cut punter value back again. It's a sad day, in many respects."

The ultimate success, or otherwise, of totepool's move on deductions will probably be measured over years rather than months, but a 22% rise in the cost of any product is unlikely to stimulate demand in the short term. If many millions do indeed arrive from overseas, it will improve the quality and stability of the pools, though the interest of foreign punters is most likely to focus on top-quality Flat racing such as the Derby and Royal Ascot. The pools for novice hurdles at Fakenham in January are unlikely to receive a big injection of cash from Hong Kong or Australia, yet gamblers will still suffer the higher rate of deductions.

Perhaps totepool's British customers will embrace higher deductions if the pools are more robust. Then again, unlike their counterparts in most major racing nations, they do have a choice.

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Re: Re: money done in cold fcuking blood thks mr vee moodley

12 years 2 months ago
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"bookmakers percentages are an absolute joke"

You make a statement (above) do you actually know how betting percenatges work< if so please enlighten us?

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Re: Re: money done in cold fcuking blood thks mr vee moodley

12 years 2 months ago
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All this personal attacks are uncalled for, grow up boys , respect other opinions

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12 years 2 months ago
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My Apologies i certainly am not "attacking" anyone , was just asking Tipster to enlighten us how it works as i sure as hell dont !

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