Trainer patterns, do they exist and what can we learn from them?

Are our local trainers creatures of habit, or is researching this angle to find value a waste of time? For example, some trainers horses run very well after a long rest, while other trainers horses are still a little unfit after a long rest. What do the clansmen think?

Do they move with the times like Fergie or stew like Wenger?

Rob foux could give us some nice insights on this topic

Cant remember who it was but read a trainer stating he found that Guateng trained horses were fitter than kzn trained horses,when he moved upto KZN..

i think the foundation of this topic is as follows

a "few" trainers usually get the best out of their runners when the following condition is met , when the price is right ........

Some dnt have patterns they just rely on luck

soodum Wrote:

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> Some dnt have patterns they just rely on luck

Absolutely true......but that is a pattern in itself..........those stable's horses will reproduce form far less than the norm.

Once you have worked out the form (eliminated what you consider the no-hopers) the next most important factor is the "patterns" or on going record of the stable in certain circumstances- the patterns tend to be more predictable than the form in my experience!

Rob, poker is a game of skill,but every good poker player knows they need their share of luck aswell.Suppose variables come into horse racing aswell rob?

hibernia Wrote:

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> Rob, poker is a game of skill,but every good poker
> player knows they need their share of luck
> aswell.Suppose variables come into horse racing
> aswell rob?

I agree Hibs.........I studied the hell out of poker and learnt all the odds etc etc

2 things I discovered.......1)the luck in poker is a higher factor than most admit......the better skilled WILL profit over luck IN THE LONG RUN but it can be a long haul when luck is not going your way and 2) It won't ever be me cos I can be reasonably patient waiting for a horse but not for a hand- I don't have the patience/discipline for poker so gave it up (still enter the odd game(sit&go)if bored when racing is abandoned but without great expectation.)

Similarly the patterns are not an exact science by any means..........merely a greater "likelihood"!

Yep....some have their own unique tricks and patterns!Studying them will greatly improve ur picks LD...and i mean greatly!

Here is something I know from experience in sport. Going from kzn to the highveld you lack oxygen, and vice versa. Regardless of training I assume if horses are not properly climatised they must suffer the same as all athletes.

Speaking of poker, iv always wantd 2 learn hw 2play, but no1 in my circle of friends and families know how to play, can some1 here pls point me ind right direction