SAF TOTE betray???

please look at tote dividend for place in the group 1 SAF
3 1,70
2 1,20
4 2,50


and now the same race tote in france (they had totay greyville which they normally not have)

3 Place 5,00
2 4,80
4 13,50

was not co mingled

Titch Wrote:

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> was not co mingled


Exactly............does it expose the value of our tote vs the others???? ..................maybe why other countries can see value in their totes and our local product is falling over?
How do our take-outs really compare?

Something I would like clarification on. . . Carryover , gets added to the new pool and then AGAIN 25% taken out from that carryover. If that is the case I reckon is theft.

Magi Wrote:

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> Something I would like clarification on. . .
> Carryover , gets added to the new pool and then
> AGAIN 25% taken out from that carryover. If that
> is the case I reckon is theft.


only taxed once...C/O are added to the post tax new pool

France has no bookmakers only a tote.

sharkie Wrote:

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> France has no bookmakers only a tote.

Is there tote independent or do they control everything in racing??

sharkie Wrote:

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> France has no bookmakers only a tote.

Until about three years ago

As members of the EU, how difficult can it be for punters ,particularly owners, punting with bookmakers outside of France?

The greatest lie in SA racing " co-mingling will cause bigger pools and therefore bigger payouts".................nothing could have been further from the truth!

This is one of my pet hates, and can find plenty more on this subject, but dont be conned!!

CO-MINGLING?


Note! This was an extract from an early Scotia in the morning posts with regards to the co-mingling French fiasco????????????????????????????????????




I also posted on the site with regards the 2 horse race, makes its so much easier to check what pressure the normal "punter" is up against, I posted PLEASE don't make them both "money-on", however blackpearl at 7/10 and 11/10 tried to come to the party, Interbet at racetime came to the party in-line with Betfair with 8/10 and 12/10 at 100%, but the early prices from the bookies at 6/10 and 9/10 shocking, but the shocker was the TOTE with 7/10 the winner and "NOT TOTE FAV", this must surely expose to the poor punter in the tote how much the "rip off" factor is. I will say this one more time as it totally infuriates me that the French co-mingling fiasco when Dettori won on the 6/1 shot and it paid 11/10 on the tote and "WAS NOT THE TOTE FAV", just wish more people could read these posts on the site, and after my inputs on Saturday, many people do read the site, but don't post.

The dept of Trade and Industry commissioned an in depth investigation and recommendations in respect of various gambling issues ,including horseracing.
Interesting that they have appeared to ignored all the suggestions and bowed to self-serving objections(to the detriment of punters)...............I wonder how many pieces of silver changed hands.

rob faux Wrote:

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> The dept of Trade and Industry commissioned an in
> depth investigation and recommendations in respect
> of various gambling issues ,including
> horseracing.
> Interesting that they have appeared to ignored all
> the suggestions and bowed to self-serving
> objections(to the detriment of
> punters)...............I wonder how many pieces of
> silver changed hands.

Was the report released or is the investigation still ongoing??