Mike De Kock lets rip at "incompetent" Gold Circle Panel

still trying to figure out how a horse like Punta Arenas got in the race?
was it because of the trainers connection to Phumelela?

I must be stupid but why attact wagner?

The condition of the race states that the winner of the sc qualifies
Joey has had zero pressure therefore in preperation for this race
He as managed to get its mr lower and form appear off getting him a weight of 53
He has had 5/6 grass gallops and is therefore race fit
I have no doubt he is racing fit as well ( diff to race fit)
This is training at its best, getting a horse into a target race in the best possible condition and advantages
He is putting the gin on for the July .....amazing
He might not be the best horse in the race but that is often the case, you might not like Wagner but if he carried 58kgs you could certainly disregard him, with 53 he is a runner.

What was the point of having a panel?:S I copied the Log at the 4th June and there were only changes in the Top 30 was Run For It and Astro News jumping Master Plan and Tellina.

1 POMODORO Sean Tarry 113

2 HILL FIFTY FOUR Vaughan Marshall 112

3 HEAVY METAL Sean Tarry 111

4 JACKSON Brett Crawford 113 - Scratched

5 THUNDER DANCE Brett Crawford 106 - Scratched

6 SHOGUNNAR Gavin van Zyl 106

7 JET EXPLORER Justin Snaith 101

8 TRIBAL DANCE Vaughan Marshall 107

9 VERCINGETORIX Mike de Kock 108 - Scratched

10 CAPETOWN NOIR Dean Kannemeyer 107

11 WYLIE HALL (AUS) Weiho Marwing 107

12 NO WORRIES Gavin van Zyl 107

13 CHERRY ON THE TOP Ormond Ferraris 112 - Scratched

14 DO YOU REMEMBER Geoff Woodruff106

15 WHITELINE FEVER Sean Tarry 109

16 WAGNER Joe Soma 98

17 GOTHIC Kumaran Naidoo 97

18 KNOCK ON WOOD Ormond Ferraris 107 - Scratched

19 LOVE STRUCK Paul Lafferty 103

20 SEAL Gavin van Zyl 108





Next 10









21 E-JET Sean Tarry 104

22 PUNTA ARENAS Stan Elley 100

23 WILD ONE Jeff Freedman 95

24 TELLINA Geoff Woodruff 103 - Didn't Quality

25 MASTER PLAN Alec Laird 110 - Didn't Qualify

26 RUN FOR IT Justin Snaith 106 -Qualified

27 KING OF PAIN Joey Ramsden 104

28 GOLD ONYX Sean Tarry 104

29 ICE MACHINE Garth Puller 109

30 ZAMBUCCA Saeed Mohideen 107

From what i've seen people are saying Rock cocktail and Tellina were unlucky not to get in while Gothic, Wild one and Love Struck were fortunate to get in.

Tellina should not have gotten into the July over Love Struck, Gothic or Wild one, horses which could be argued were borderline entries into the july. This is in black and white in the form book.

Plus from what i've seen (correct me if im wrong) Tellina struggles to jump on terms and usually has to try run on from right at the back. That might work in Turffontein but with Greyville's much shorter run in, i personally didn't give Tellina much of a chance in the july, especially when you look at it's poor run in the daily news, even if their may be excuses.

You would have to look at other horses for Tellina to get in over, Rock cocktail however does have a fair case to make.

easy please could you show me where it states in writing that the winner of the summer cup is automatically a runner in the july?i am aware of the greyville 1900 winner being an automatic runner in the july as this is stated in the nomination book ...

JAMES BLOND Wrote:

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> still trying to figure out how a horse like Punta
> Arenas got in the race?
> was it because of the trainers connection to
> Phumelela?


go onto formgrids and have a look at punta arenas 2 runs behind hill 54 and now look at the weight pull he has with hill54 in the july...hill 54 almost won a race called the met where he beat a horse called pomodoro who is fav for the july...punta has his 3rd run here and has been very well placed by mr elley and his run to a certain horse called variety club at greyville off level weights was eyecatching......he fully deserves his chance in the july...

pirates Wrote:

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> easy please could you show me where it states in
> writing that the winner of the summer cup is
> automatically a runner in the july?i am aware of
> the greyville 1900 winner being an automatic
> runner in the july as this is stated in the
> nomination book ...


Very good question

shrek Wrote:

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> What was the point of having a panel?:S I copied
> the Log at the 4th June and there were only
> changes in the Top 30 was Run For It and Astro
> News jumping Master Plan and Tellina.
>
> 1 POMODORO Sean Tarry 113
>
> 2 HILL FIFTY FOUR Vaughan Marshall 112
>
> 3 HEAVY METAL Sean Tarry 111
>
> 4 JACKSON Brett Crawford 113 - Scratched
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> 5 THUNDER DANCE Brett Crawford 106 - Scratched
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> 6 SHOGUNNAR Gavin van Zyl 106
>
> 7 JET EXPLORER Justin Snaith 101
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> 8 TRIBAL DANCE Vaughan Marshall 107
>
> 9 VERCINGETORIX Mike de Kock 108 - Scratched
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> 10 CAPETOWN NOIR Dean Kannemeyer 107
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> 11 WYLIE HALL (AUS) Weiho Marwing 107
>
> 12 NO WORRIES Gavin van Zyl 107
>
> 13 CHERRY ON THE TOP Ormond Ferraris 112 -
> Scratched
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> 14 DO YOU REMEMBER Geoff Woodruff106
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> 15 WHITELINE FEVER Sean Tarry 109
>
> 16 WAGNER Joe Soma 98
>
> 17 GOTHIC Kumaran Naidoo 97
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> 18 KNOCK ON WOOD Ormond Ferraris 107 - Scratched
>
> 19 LOVE STRUCK Paul Lafferty 103
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> 20 SEAL Gavin van Zyl 108
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> Next 10
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> 21 E-JET Sean Tarry 104
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> 22 PUNTA ARENAS Stan Elley 100
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> 23 WILD ONE Jeff Freedman 95
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> 24 TELLINA Geoff Woodruff 103 - Didn't Quality
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> 25 MASTER PLAN Alec Laird 110 - Didn't Qualify
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> 26 RUN FOR IT Justin Snaith 106 -Qualified
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> 27 KING OF PAIN Joey Ramsden 104
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> 28 GOLD ONYX Sean Tarry 104
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> 29 ICE MACHINE Garth Puller 109
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> 30 ZAMBUCCA Saeed Mohideen 107


So they mostly went with their 'log' (apart from Run For It) - which most agree was a poor starting point - garbage in, garbage out :

Flash Harry Wrote:

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> the point i try to make saksy as de kock has all
> ready is that the panel make the final say
> regardless of what merit rating and form say. so
> to try justify one or another to make field when
> they have not is waste of time.


So u saying its better to be quiet like a little lamb than voice your opinion when you clearly been wronged?

In my book letting someone know they have wronged you is never a futile exercise.

Flash I don't know you but I would have a nice wager that if you owned RC or T you would be shouting it from the rooftops what a bunch of malaka's the panel are!

I don't believe Phumulela had any influence over the field, looking at who owns RC...

Frodo Wrote:

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> As Flash says - the conditions are clear - does
> not matter that the 'panel' have not done their
> job properly (in the view of many) - in their view
> it is probably 'their' race and it is their
> prerogative to make any stuff up that they wish


Frodo I assume you said this tongue in cheek. Correct?

Rock Cocktail disgraced himself in the Betting World Derby.

saksy i would be screaming blue murder as you say but the fact remains frodo is right these malakas can do what they like. is why de kock say they do it year after year. i remember not so long ago there was a legal challenge maybe it was goodman i cant remember, the judge say how can he rule against GC when the conditions are clear. being clear does not meen it is fair!