WHAT A DISGRACE - FLAMINGO PARK TOP TRAINER JAAP VISSER

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11 years 11 months ago
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I refuse to even look at the video... I know that is a bit like burying my head in the sand but I cannot stomach cruelty full stop.

I take it by the simple outcry from this forum that this case warrants a very serious inquiry and it would seem broad owner and punter support to ensure operators and regulators take the necessary action swiftly.

As an owner I have refused (and still refuse) to send my horses to Kimberly for some time now and this position stands. I think all owners should take this stance until the NHA can convince us that regulation in the region is implemented and administered in a consistent, fair, strict and professional manner. Until then owners should boycott the center in favor of other centers.

As a punter I will not place a single bet on Kimberley until I can be convinced of the same above. I challenge other punters to do the same.

As a massive supporter of the industry and someone who would dearly like to the see the wrongs righted and the industry move froward from strength to strength into the future I make this promise. If the appropriate action is not taken by the operator and regulator I too will run down my interests in racing and breeding and advise the several other owners that I have brought to racing to do the same.

I don't make this as a threat, and see this as the only real support I can show for the horses... my only hope is that the appropriate action is taken swiftly.
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11 years 11 months ago
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This is not an isolated case , cruelty of different forms is happening at most of the training centres.
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I think racing needs its own SPCA that is completely independent of the NHRA ,Racing Operators & Trainers.

I would volunteer my services to the above because I really care about Thoroughbreds and I love Racing .
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11 years 11 months ago
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Rockspider I'm glad you're are joining this discussion. You saw the horse, you phoned the RA rep on Tuesday. Apparently the vet is also denying that the horse was in such a bad condition. Maybe he must be held responsible as well. He saw the horse on Wednesday and he was phoned about the condition of this horse on Saturday morning by Steph Miller
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11 years 11 months ago
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I stand by what i have said if the horse was not so bad why put the horse down then was it the same vet that saw the horse on wed if the horse werent that bad surely the horse could have been put in a stable and cared for and kept there till sound the vid of the horse doesnt lie
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11 years 11 months ago
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GOEIE MIDDAG EK JAAP VISSER GAAN NOU DIE WARE TOEDRAG VAN SAKE AAN U ALMAL DEURGEE OMTRENT GOLDEN OCCASSION. OP SATERDAG 14 SEPTEMBER HET GEVOER - NIKS VERKEERD.

15 SEPTEMBER - GEDURENDE DIE MIDDAG HOOF GROOM HET KOM SE GOLDEN OCC LOOP LINKS VOOR MANK. IS VERMOEDELIK DEUR ANDER RUSTENDE PERD GESKOP.

SY LINKER VOORARM IS GESWEL. SPIERE HET N RONDEBOL SAAMGETREK.

HET TOE SELF ONDERSOEK GAAN INSTEL. KON EGTER GEEN GEBREKE OOGLOPEND VIND NIE.

16 SEPTEMBER - MAANDAG - WEER GAAN KYK EN SELF GEDOKTER.

17 SEPTEMBER - DINSDAG - GEEN VERBETERING - SPIERE NOG STYF - SWELSEL HET BEGIN AFSAK NA KNIEG EN JOINT. SPIERE HET BEGIN ONTSPAN, MAAR HET BEGIN LIMP EN WOU GLAD NIE OP HOEF TRAP NIE.

18 SEPTEMBER - WOENSDAG - DR VAN HEERDEN OGGEND GESKAKEL WAS EGTER BAIE BESIG MET KAMEELPERDE. STUUR VIR DR PIET SWART.

NEEM PLATE DIESELFDE MIDDAG LAAT - BEVINDING MEEGEDEEL - GEEN GEBREKE DADELIK MEDIKASIE MOONTLIK SPIERE ASOOK SENUWEE BESKADIG. MOET EGTER VIR 3 TOT 5 DAE KYK VIR MOONTLIKE VERBETERING (HERSTEL) MOET MET DR IN VERBINDING BLY.

19 SEPTEMBER - DONDERDAG - MEDIKASIE

20 SEPTEMBER - VRYDAG - DIESELFDE BEHANDELING - GOLDEN HET NORMAAL GEEET EN WATER GEDRINK HET EGTER GELIMP AS HY LOOP - GEEN TEKENS VAN STRES.

21 SEPTEMBER - DIESELFDE BEHANDELING - DR VAN HEERDEN MET J0-ANN - WAS TEVREDE - PLATE WYS GEEN GEBREKE
WIL VOORKOM ASOF SPIERE EN SENUWEES BESKADIG WAS. KANSE OP N NORMALE HERSTEL ONMOONTLIK - SAL LETSELS OORHOU EN LIMP.

EIENAAR WAS ALREEDS IN KENNIS GESTEL - BESLUITE WAT GENEEM WORD IN DR VAN HEERDEN EN JAAP VISSER GELAAT.

22 SEPTEMBER - SONDAG - HET REEDS MY BESLUIT GENEEM OOR GOLDEN. KONTAK NODIGE MENSE OM GOLDEN TE VERWYDER - TYD 06H58. KERK VERPLIGTINGE - KON EERS 17H00 VERWYDERING DOEN. GOLDEN HET DUS NOG GELEEF TOT 17H15.

VIR VERDERE INLIGTING SKAKEL DR VAN HEERDEN - 053 8325711 OF KONTAK MY (JAAP) OM MY BETER TE LEER KEN VOOR ENIGE OORDEEL GEVEL KAN WORD - 076 540 5455. EK JAAP VISSER IS DIE AFRIGTER. JO-ANN VISSER - STABLE EMPLOYEE EN KLERE HOUER.

EK GLO DAARAAN EN VERBIND MY TOT DIE REELS VAN DIE NATIONAL HORSERACING ASS. ASOOK PHUMELELA. INDIEN EK VERKEERD WAS IN MY OPTREDE SAL DIE NHRA EN PHUMELELA MY DAARVAN VERWITTIG EN AANSPREEK.

EK IS BAIE LIEF VIR MY DIERE ASOOK MY HUIDIGE EIENAARS EN DIE VOORREG OM RENPERDE TE KAN AFRIG. DIT IS N VOORREG EN NIE N REG OM RENPERDE AFTERIG NIE.

BAIE DANKIE

JAAP VISSER
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11 years 11 months ago
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Can somebody pls translate that into english
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11 years 11 months ago
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soodum Wrote:
> Can somebody pls translate that into english what google says


GOOD AFTERNOON I JAAP VISSER TO NOW THE REAL situation pass on to you ALL ABOUT GOLDEN occassion . ON SATURDAY 14 SEPTEMBER DID NOTHING WRONG TO BE CONDUCTED .

SEPTEMBER 15 - DURING THE AFTERNOON HEAD GROOM LET 'S GOLDEN CROSS OCC LEFT BEFORE limping . Presumably by OTHER resting HORSE kicked .

His left forearm was swollen . MUSCLES HAVE A gathered RONDEBOL .

Herself then went to investigate . KINGS however NO FAULTS obvious PLACE .

16 SEPTEMBER MONDAY WILL LOOK AGAIN AND SELF doctored .

17 SEPTEMBER - TUESDAY - NO IMPROVEMENT muscles STILL stiff swelling START sink knee and JOINT . MUSCLES START RELAX , BUT DID START did Limp AND want ON HAVING TRAP .

18 SEPTEMBER - WEDNESDAY - DR OF HEERDEN MORNING LINKED WAS HOWEVER VERY BUSY WITH giraffes . SEND DR PETER BLACK .

PLATE TAKE THE SAME AFTERNOON LATE - FINDING told NO FAULTS MEDICATION IMMEDIATELY POSSIBLE MUSCLES AND NERVOUS DAMAGED . DO FOR 3 TO 5 DAYS LOOK FOR POSSIBLE IMPROVEMENT ( RECOVERY ) BE DR IN CONNECTION .

SEPTEMBER 19 - THURSDAY - MEDICATION

20 SEPTEMBER - FRIDAY THE SAME TREATMENT - GOLDEN NORMAL food and drank water , however GELIMP as he LOOP NO SIGNS OF STRESS .

21 SEPTEMBER SAME TREATMENT DR OF HEERDEN WITH J0 ANN SHOW WAS SATISFIED PLATE NO FAULTS
Seems muscles and nerves DAMAGE WAS . CHANCES ON A NORMAL RECOVERY IMPOSSIBLE WILL lesions shall leave thereof and Limp .

OWNER WAS ALREADY NOTIFIED - DECISIONS TAKEN IN DR VAN HEERDEN AND LEFT JAAP VISSER .

SEPTEMBER 22 - SUNDAY HAS HELD ME DECISION TAKEN ON GOLDEN . REMOVE CONTACT NECESSARY PEOPLE TO GOLDEN TIME 06H58 . FIRST CHURCH DUTIES Kings 17H00 REMOVAL DO . GOLDEN therefore still alive to 17h15 .

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT DR VAN HEERDEN 053 8325711 OR CONTACT MY ( JAAP ) FOR BETTER KNOW MAY BE ANY judgment - 076 540 5455 . I JAAP FISHING IS THE COACH . JO ANN VISSER STABLE EMPLOYEE AND CLOTHING HOLDER .

I BELIEVE it and undertake ME TO THE RULES OF THE NATIONAL Horseracing ASS . AND Phumelela . IF I WRONG WAS IN ITS MY ACTIONS WILL NHRA and Phumelela NOTIFIED AND ADDRESSING .

I VERY LOVE MY ANIMALS AND MY CURRENT OWNERS AND THE PRIVILEGE TO racehorses can coach . IT IS A PRIVILEGE , NOT A RIGHT TO racehorses AFTERIG .

THANK YOU

JAAP VISSER
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Re: Re: WHAT A DISGRACE - FLAMINGO PARK TOP TRAINER JAAP VISSER

11 years 11 months ago
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Google Translate eh Bob :)

Quite funny that translation
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11 years 11 months ago
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Lol tnx hibs
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11 years 11 months ago
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Meneer Visser, kan u vir my se hoekom julle het nie die perd in a stal gesit terwyl julle vir eenige "moontlike verbetering" gewag het, met die perd? Hoekom was hy in 'n groot kamp in? Het julle nie gedink dat die perd sal miskien laminitis in die ander poot kry?
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11 years 11 months ago
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Can someone correct the bad bits please..
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Re: Re: WHAT A DISGRACE - FLAMINGO PARK TOP TRAINER JAAP VISSER

11 years 11 months ago
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Re the translation:

Importantly, on Sunday 22 Sep Mr Visser had already made up his mind about the horse. Did he do this on Saturday? Or even Friday?

I would love to be at this enquiry and to be able to ask a few questions under cross examination.

All credit to Mr Visser for posting. He has now published his side of story, and like Oscar the athlete, will have to stick to it. It won't be easy

A really sad sad story
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