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11 years 9 months ago
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Thabo is definitely an African!
BUT......
South Africa does not belong necessarily to his kind!
This country was inhabited by the yellow-skin Khoisan (Hottentots, Bushmen, etc) who not only had no say in the theft of their ancestral lands by both white and Bantu marauding colonialists, but there were no title deeds to wit!
To Thabo, Malema, Mokonyane, Zuma, Sello and all who scream 'Africa for Africans', Native Club', 'indigenous blacks', 'Black this... and black that; meaning Africans only', and the whites who say that they brought Christianity to save our souls and swipe our lands, I say....
Stuff you!
We, the KHOISAN are the original, legitimate, indigenous inhabitants of this land. To us belonged the diamond and gold mines, wealth of the land, unashamedly 'stolen' by conniving wars between Bantu (war monger Shaka) and crafty whites (Cecil Rhodes for the ICC!)
Despite this, we Khoisan are prepared to make concessions, compromises and even albeit forgive. What are the whites and Africans prepared to do?
They continue to marginalise and discriminate against us (two whites even fobbed me of a share in my horse by intimidation, threats and insults!) and Lonmin wants to donate serviced stands to Marikana blacks (land that belonged to us!).
This country needs a national revolution in mindset and attitudes. We continue to live in and collude within our racist / religious / cultural / tribal clusters for personal benefit and enrichment, blind to the rights of others.... even our own. S much so, that infighting is becoming the flagship; look at the recent court action threats by the Mandela grandchildren regarding patent rights! Or, that the Gauteng 'cabinet' list of EFF is loaded with Pedi speakers! Or, blacks pandered to within each Province according to their languages
More white millionaires were created on the back f BEE in the new South Africa than 50+ years of apartheid that nobody talks about! Let's start with Phumelela; how many whites have made a kill with the original shares? I remember a prominent owner who said (at the time), don't buy horses, buy P shares!
I am sick and tired of the hypocrisy and lack of not only objectivity, but empathy in fellow beings.
I regard myself as a South African First where foreigners have more rights and credibility than myself in my land!
I rest my case....
Khoisan Unity Movement ...........
Amandla!
Thabo is definitely an African!
BUT......
South Africa does not belong necessarily to his kind!
This country was inhabited by the yellow-skin Khoisan (Hottentots, Bushmen, etc) who not only had no say in the theft of their ancestral lands by both white and Bantu marauding colonialists, but there were no title deeds to wit!
To Thabo, Malema, Mokonyane, Zuma, Sello and all who scream 'Africa for Africans', Native Club', 'indigenous blacks', 'Black this... and black that; meaning Africans only', and the whites who say that they brought Christianity to save our souls and swipe our lands, I say....
Stuff you!
We, the KHOISAN are the original, legitimate, indigenous inhabitants of this land. To us belonged the diamond and gold mines, wealth of the land, unashamedly 'stolen' by conniving wars between Bantu (war monger Shaka) and crafty whites (Cecil Rhodes for the ICC!)
Despite this, we Khoisan are prepared to make concessions, compromises and even albeit forgive. What are the whites and Africans prepared to do?
They continue to marginalise and discriminate against us (two whites even fobbed me of a share in my horse by intimidation, threats and insults!) and Lonmin wants to donate serviced stands to Marikana blacks (land that belonged to us!).
This country needs a national revolution in mindset and attitudes. We continue to live in and collude within our racist / religious / cultural / tribal clusters for personal benefit and enrichment, blind to the rights of others.... even our own. S much so, that infighting is becoming the flagship; look at the recent court action threats by the Mandela grandchildren regarding patent rights! Or, that the Gauteng 'cabinet' list of EFF is loaded with Pedi speakers! Or, blacks pandered to within each Province according to their languages
More white millionaires were created on the back f BEE in the new South Africa than 50+ years of apartheid that nobody talks about! Let's start with Phumelela; how many whites have made a kill with the original shares? I remember a prominent owner who said (at the time), don't buy horses, buy P shares!
I am sick and tired of the hypocrisy and lack of not only objectivity, but empathy in fellow beings.
I regard myself as a South African First where foreigners have more rights and credibility than myself in my land!
I rest my case....
Khoisan Unity Movement ...........
Amandla!
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Re: Re: Proudly South African
11 years 9 months ago
There seems to be hope (from City Press):
Open letter to the surviving Rivonia Trialists
13 October 2012 10:48
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Dear Ahmed Kathrada, Andrew Mlangeni, Dennis Goldberg and Nelson Mandela, I greet you all in the name of the continuing economic freedom struggle of our people.
Your courage in fighting for the emancipation of our country is greatly appreciated.
I was fed ANC propaganda with my Purity baby food, but I believe the time has come to consciously choose South Africa over the ANC.
The governing party, for many, is like a religion, followed by many without question or doubt.
Surely comrades, your sacrifices were not for a one-party, one-trade union state?
The time for a younger, patriotic and selfless leadership, like yours in 1964, is here.
The thinking public laments our bumpy transition from liberation movement to political party, with some pointing out that a liberation movement has to be centralised and secretive while a modern party in government must be influenced by its members and society, and so be more transparent.
The loss of public trust through daily media exposure of the plague of government corruption, which appears to be condoned by the ANC, is deeply seated.
The public perception is that the Mangaung leadership debate will boil down to who will continue to allow rampant looting of state resources, the dangerous slippery slope of tribalism, or who might make a difference.
Truth be told, the names being bandied about as top contenders are all synonymous with the rot that plagues the movement.
The masses so loved by political party leaders at election time have taken to the streets to voice their dissatisfaction.
Earlier this year, even middle-class armchair critics put on their designer sneakers and marched against e-tolling, also reportedly shrouded in corruption and an added burden on our ridiculously taxed wallets.
In March, Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa informed Parliament that between 2007 and 2010, the most common reason for police crowd management of gatherings was labour-related demands for increases in wages, and that unrest requiring police intervention was related to service delivery issues.
Later in June, City Press reported that 372 protests related to service delivery had been recorded between January and the end of May this year alone.
In 18 years of democracy, we can still blame apartheid for many social ills, but we must also blame our leaders.
The disgraceful and shocking non-delivery of textbooks in Limpopo left me cold.
But the worst thing that broke the soul of South Africa during this fateful year of the ANC’s centenary was the shameful Marikana massacre, reminiscent of the Sharpeville slaughter.
It highlighted aspects of every ill plaguing black society under an ANC-led government: police brutality, wage strikes, corporate greed, failure of natural mineral resource redistribution, flawed implementation of black economic empowerment, violent crime, service-delivery failure – including inhumane slum settlements – unemployment concerns and much more.
The man who shoved his way to the front, taking the reins of leadership in this sorry mess, was Julius Malema, a spat-out child of the movement. In the space of a few days, he single-handedly nullified what little trust I had left in the aging ANC leadership.
I was raised by courageous men and women, people like you, the Rivonia Trialists, who now need me to tell them it’s time to let go.
The ANC has never been as self-destructive as it is today.
Cosatu, the ANC-aligned trade union federation, has driven the economy into free fall as the failure of their collective bargaining strategy, designed to perpetuate the racist status quo, is blowing up in our faces with one strike after another.
I’m waiting for them to stop blaming “third-force right wing elements” and take some responsibility.
And let me not get started on the recent madness of more than R200 million-worth of Nkandla renovations, SAA’s R5 billion bailout and the relentless e-toll attitude of government.
In 2009, I took longer than usual to vote in the booth, agonising over putting an X next to the face of a man I instinctively knew was bad news.
My love for the ANC won over my reservations.
In last year’s local government elections, I rebelled, voting for the ANC in my neighbourhood and for another party in the city.
I am sure Joburg Mayor Parks Tau is capable, but my rebellion against a President Jacob Zuma-led ANC began with that ballot paper.
To not vote at all in 2014, as many are threatening, will be to dishonour the memory of my uncle, Lesetja Sexwale, and his many fallen comrades who died in combat for my right to vote.
It will be to disrespect the struggle for which men and woman such as him, men like yourselves, sacrificed their youth.
Personally, it will be a betrayal of little Kay who was badly injured in a cross-border raid in Lesotho in 1982 when the apartheid forces were hunting down Umkhonto we Sizwe combatants like my father and Chris Hani.
I don’t know who I will vote for. All I know is that Zuma will never again hold office with my consent.
I know uncle Lesetja and uncle Chris would not view my choice as a betrayal of their sacrifices. I trust that you won’t either.
I choose South Africa.
» Sexwale is a media and communication strategist with an interest in current affairs and post-apartheid experiences
Open letter to the surviving Rivonia Trialists
13 October 2012 10:48
41
Dear Ahmed Kathrada, Andrew Mlangeni, Dennis Goldberg and Nelson Mandela, I greet you all in the name of the continuing economic freedom struggle of our people.
Your courage in fighting for the emancipation of our country is greatly appreciated.
I was fed ANC propaganda with my Purity baby food, but I believe the time has come to consciously choose South Africa over the ANC.
The governing party, for many, is like a religion, followed by many without question or doubt.
Surely comrades, your sacrifices were not for a one-party, one-trade union state?
The time for a younger, patriotic and selfless leadership, like yours in 1964, is here.
The thinking public laments our bumpy transition from liberation movement to political party, with some pointing out that a liberation movement has to be centralised and secretive while a modern party in government must be influenced by its members and society, and so be more transparent.
The loss of public trust through daily media exposure of the plague of government corruption, which appears to be condoned by the ANC, is deeply seated.
The public perception is that the Mangaung leadership debate will boil down to who will continue to allow rampant looting of state resources, the dangerous slippery slope of tribalism, or who might make a difference.
Truth be told, the names being bandied about as top contenders are all synonymous with the rot that plagues the movement.
The masses so loved by political party leaders at election time have taken to the streets to voice their dissatisfaction.
Earlier this year, even middle-class armchair critics put on their designer sneakers and marched against e-tolling, also reportedly shrouded in corruption and an added burden on our ridiculously taxed wallets.
In March, Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa informed Parliament that between 2007 and 2010, the most common reason for police crowd management of gatherings was labour-related demands for increases in wages, and that unrest requiring police intervention was related to service delivery issues.
Later in June, City Press reported that 372 protests related to service delivery had been recorded between January and the end of May this year alone.
In 18 years of democracy, we can still blame apartheid for many social ills, but we must also blame our leaders.
The disgraceful and shocking non-delivery of textbooks in Limpopo left me cold.
But the worst thing that broke the soul of South Africa during this fateful year of the ANC’s centenary was the shameful Marikana massacre, reminiscent of the Sharpeville slaughter.
It highlighted aspects of every ill plaguing black society under an ANC-led government: police brutality, wage strikes, corporate greed, failure of natural mineral resource redistribution, flawed implementation of black economic empowerment, violent crime, service-delivery failure – including inhumane slum settlements – unemployment concerns and much more.
The man who shoved his way to the front, taking the reins of leadership in this sorry mess, was Julius Malema, a spat-out child of the movement. In the space of a few days, he single-handedly nullified what little trust I had left in the aging ANC leadership.
I was raised by courageous men and women, people like you, the Rivonia Trialists, who now need me to tell them it’s time to let go.
The ANC has never been as self-destructive as it is today.
Cosatu, the ANC-aligned trade union federation, has driven the economy into free fall as the failure of their collective bargaining strategy, designed to perpetuate the racist status quo, is blowing up in our faces with one strike after another.
I’m waiting for them to stop blaming “third-force right wing elements” and take some responsibility.
And let me not get started on the recent madness of more than R200 million-worth of Nkandla renovations, SAA’s R5 billion bailout and the relentless e-toll attitude of government.
In 2009, I took longer than usual to vote in the booth, agonising over putting an X next to the face of a man I instinctively knew was bad news.
My love for the ANC won over my reservations.
In last year’s local government elections, I rebelled, voting for the ANC in my neighbourhood and for another party in the city.
I am sure Joburg Mayor Parks Tau is capable, but my rebellion against a President Jacob Zuma-led ANC began with that ballot paper.
To not vote at all in 2014, as many are threatening, will be to dishonour the memory of my uncle, Lesetja Sexwale, and his many fallen comrades who died in combat for my right to vote.
It will be to disrespect the struggle for which men and woman such as him, men like yourselves, sacrificed their youth.
Personally, it will be a betrayal of little Kay who was badly injured in a cross-border raid in Lesotho in 1982 when the apartheid forces were hunting down Umkhonto we Sizwe combatants like my father and Chris Hani.
I don’t know who I will vote for. All I know is that Zuma will never again hold office with my consent.
I know uncle Lesetja and uncle Chris would not view my choice as a betrayal of their sacrifices. I trust that you won’t either.
I choose South Africa.
» Sexwale is a media and communication strategist with an interest in current affairs and post-apartheid experiences
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Re: Re: Proudly South African
11 years 9 months ago
The thread is PROUDLY SOUTH AFICAN.
So Umlilo from ur post what exactly are U proud of in the RSA today.
So Umlilo from ur post what exactly are U proud of in the RSA today.
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Re: Re: Proudly South African
11 years 9 months ago
@Fogwils:
Shucks! You got me there!
Thabo says he is proudly 'African'; not proudly SOUTH AFRICAN!
There are those who say they cannot be proudly African,'cos they not Africans!
Others say they are African 'cos they know no other country (despised by Malema et al for saying so!)
Then, there are those who say they African , are black, yet wear wigs, use skin lightening, speaka da Quin's Engleesh, live in Sandton (in the north, migrating back to where they came from?), identify with Eurocentric lifestyle, don't have the vaguest idea of mfino / morogo, n'simbiti, juba, etc. (Lol! And I always been under the impression that we Coloureds/Khoisan have an identity crisis!)
So, I suppose, I am proudly KHOISAN as this IS my country!
Yeh! What's to be proud of....anyway? Bribery, corruption, self-enrichment, nepotism, insolence, reverse racism.......?
Shucks! You got me there!
Thabo says he is proudly 'African'; not proudly SOUTH AFRICAN!
There are those who say they cannot be proudly African,'cos they not Africans!
Others say they are African 'cos they know no other country (despised by Malema et al for saying so!)
Then, there are those who say they African , are black, yet wear wigs, use skin lightening, speaka da Quin's Engleesh, live in Sandton (in the north, migrating back to where they came from?), identify with Eurocentric lifestyle, don't have the vaguest idea of mfino / morogo, n'simbiti, juba, etc. (Lol! And I always been under the impression that we Coloureds/Khoisan have an identity crisis!)
So, I suppose, I am proudly KHOISAN as this IS my country!
Yeh! What's to be proud of....anyway? Bribery, corruption, self-enrichment, nepotism, insolence, reverse racism.......?
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Re: Re: Proudly South African
11 years 9 months ago
Not intending to hog this blog/site, here are responses:
This is the stuff that we, as activists grew up with, observing, thinking, criticizing, speaking out, without fear!
Despite the horror of apartheid, there were whites who engaged with us...even agreed with our viewpoints and grievances.
Today, our own black leaders ignore us completely; they talk of, support and implement 'Africans only', 'black this, black that' (meaning ..again.. Africans only!) Communications to their offices (from the President downwards) remain ignored!
We are so divided that even amongst our tribalist factions and families, we at each other's throats....to be at the trough. Note the recent threatened court action within a prominent family .
I am wont to compare today's situation with that of my days with Nkosi Luthuli when I drove him....a more humble and down-to-earth leader I cannot even visualize currently!
That it was Indians, Coloureds, Whites and Africans that shouldered as a single front the struggle from all walks of life is now a bitter memory as I note the various Government departments and even national chains; where previously there were whites only behind the counters and tills, today, it's only Africans! Yet, I fought against the 'partition' between blacks and whites in banks, together with the late AQ Mangerah....and had them removed!
That I am driven to such observations cannot be a fault of mine...can it? That, with the likes of Malema claiming land for 'mahala' as for Africans only raises the innate Khoisan consciousness in me to counter; this is MY LAND!
We, the Khoisan, are the true, legitimate, indigenous inhabitants of this great country, not the invading Bantu or whites.
After all, there were no title deeds that my ancestors had; so, how come this land is no more free for me? How is the wealth (diamonds and gold) in the hands of white corporates? What audacity of Lonmin to hand serviced plots to Marikana residents only....our land?
That I have degenerated to such thinking is a malaise set in after 1994 where 'reverse racism' has become the order of the day to assuage the uneducated mass.
That I am not a South African First in my country wherein foreigners have catre blanche rights and privileges, is a compelling indictment on our people and its leaders.
BTW: I am the one who distributed 'illegal' banned copies of the BBC documentary video 'Prisoners of Conscience- Nelson Mandela the Rivonia Trial', portrayed by Sydney Poittier.
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You have obviously walked a long and painful road Umlilo and as a white South African who undeniably benefitted from Apartheid I am remorseful of how the past has robbed you. You raise an extremely interesting point about land ownership and it would be interesting to hear the response of the likes of Malema et al. The very troubling situation we find ourselves in today, for me, has absolutely nothing to do with race, ethnicity or culture for a crime is a crime, a sin a sin, a wrong a wrong against everybody regardless of who they are or where they come from. To continue the unfortunate debates we find ourselves in time and time again along party political and racial lines serves only to divert and distract away from the reality of the crime and corruption. But this is not just a SA, or for that matter an Africa phenomenon. It seems to be a global problem with a high incidence in Africa at this point in history. I am flabbergasted that mankind generally, 2000 years AC continues to err the way we do and it is apparent that we have learned nothing through the history of time, continuing to make the errors in pretty much everything we do on a day to day basis. My fear is that as a collective (mankind) we are on a path of self destruction and more stupid than a 100 years ago. The rate at which we transgress fundamental societal principle and laws of nature is mind boggling and terrifying at the same time. Very disturbing!
This is the stuff that we, as activists grew up with, observing, thinking, criticizing, speaking out, without fear!
Despite the horror of apartheid, there were whites who engaged with us...even agreed with our viewpoints and grievances.
Today, our own black leaders ignore us completely; they talk of, support and implement 'Africans only', 'black this, black that' (meaning ..again.. Africans only!) Communications to their offices (from the President downwards) remain ignored!
We are so divided that even amongst our tribalist factions and families, we at each other's throats....to be at the trough. Note the recent threatened court action within a prominent family .
I am wont to compare today's situation with that of my days with Nkosi Luthuli when I drove him....a more humble and down-to-earth leader I cannot even visualize currently!
That it was Indians, Coloureds, Whites and Africans that shouldered as a single front the struggle from all walks of life is now a bitter memory as I note the various Government departments and even national chains; where previously there were whites only behind the counters and tills, today, it's only Africans! Yet, I fought against the 'partition' between blacks and whites in banks, together with the late AQ Mangerah....and had them removed!
That I am driven to such observations cannot be a fault of mine...can it? That, with the likes of Malema claiming land for 'mahala' as for Africans only raises the innate Khoisan consciousness in me to counter; this is MY LAND!
We, the Khoisan, are the true, legitimate, indigenous inhabitants of this great country, not the invading Bantu or whites.
After all, there were no title deeds that my ancestors had; so, how come this land is no more free for me? How is the wealth (diamonds and gold) in the hands of white corporates? What audacity of Lonmin to hand serviced plots to Marikana residents only....our land?
That I have degenerated to such thinking is a malaise set in after 1994 where 'reverse racism' has become the order of the day to assuage the uneducated mass.
That I am not a South African First in my country wherein foreigners have catre blanche rights and privileges, is a compelling indictment on our people and its leaders.
BTW: I am the one who distributed 'illegal' banned copies of the BBC documentary video 'Prisoners of Conscience- Nelson Mandela the Rivonia Trial', portrayed by Sydney Poittier.
GAC > Umlilo
• 12 hours ago
You have obviously walked a long and painful road Umlilo and as a white South African who undeniably benefitted from Apartheid I am remorseful of how the past has robbed you. You raise an extremely interesting point about land ownership and it would be interesting to hear the response of the likes of Malema et al. The very troubling situation we find ourselves in today, for me, has absolutely nothing to do with race, ethnicity or culture for a crime is a crime, a sin a sin, a wrong a wrong against everybody regardless of who they are or where they come from. To continue the unfortunate debates we find ourselves in time and time again along party political and racial lines serves only to divert and distract away from the reality of the crime and corruption. But this is not just a SA, or for that matter an Africa phenomenon. It seems to be a global problem with a high incidence in Africa at this point in history. I am flabbergasted that mankind generally, 2000 years AC continues to err the way we do and it is apparent that we have learned nothing through the history of time, continuing to make the errors in pretty much everything we do on a day to day basis. My fear is that as a collective (mankind) we are on a path of self destruction and more stupid than a 100 years ago. The rate at which we transgress fundamental societal principle and laws of nature is mind boggling and terrifying at the same time. Very disturbing!
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Re: Re: Proudly South African
11 years 9 months ago
One must be totally bored to read this crap.
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No, Dynasty, it's not crap. You are mistaken. It's how some people feel, deep down. If you disagree, say so and say why, and if you find it boring then just go to another thread. No-one will run after you and try to stop you.
Thanks for your honesty Umlilo. One hears so much from Black writers and journalists about how they feel re the ANC and the apartheid era, but for some reason one doesn't hear much from mixed-race folks (or Indians or Chinese either). It's a big gap.
I used to live in Oudtshoorn, which is mainly Coloured, and worked in a factory there which employed mainly coloured folks, and I often wondered what they thought about it all. It was difficult to ask and they didn't volunteer anything ... I was white and I was Management ... so our conversation was limited. I just kept hearing (without any of them saying it), "We are the forgotten people".
I'm going back to my house there when I retire and hope, with more time and with no official position to get in my way, to get more involved and also more educated. The experiences of Coloureds, before and after 1994, are something I'd like to hear more about, especially the half-educated, semi-employed, unnoticed and disregarded ones.
Thanks for your honesty Umlilo. One hears so much from Black writers and journalists about how they feel re the ANC and the apartheid era, but for some reason one doesn't hear much from mixed-race folks (or Indians or Chinese either). It's a big gap.
I used to live in Oudtshoorn, which is mainly Coloured, and worked in a factory there which employed mainly coloured folks, and I often wondered what they thought about it all. It was difficult to ask and they didn't volunteer anything ... I was white and I was Management ... so our conversation was limited. I just kept hearing (without any of them saying it), "We are the forgotten people".
I'm going back to my house there when I retire and hope, with more time and with no official position to get in my way, to get more involved and also more educated. The experiences of Coloureds, before and after 1994, are something I'd like to hear more about, especially the half-educated, semi-employed, unnoticed and disregarded ones.
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Re: Re: Proudly South African
11 years 9 months ago
@Mav:
'The experiences of Coloureds, before and after 1994, are something I'd like to hear more about, especially the half-educated, semi-employed, unnoticed and disregarded ones.'
Yes, the majority of Coloureds have ended totally marginalized, disregarded and discriminated against, more than whites and Indians. They have been at the butt of numerous jokes about their indolence and alcohol abuse. Unfortunate that, looking into their history, no leader (besides probably Adam Kok, my own great ancestor) ever came to lead them out of their squalor and poverty.
We Khoisan, could have been far richer than the Royal Bafokeng...pity!
You (involved with the numerous charitable organisations that you fund), others like you and I (involved with the squatters in Lanseria precinct that you aware of) know what common humanity is all about!
We also acknowledge the extent of ignorance about us diverse people as fellow human beings. That we are brought into focus as whites, Indians, Coloureds, Africans, etc, as wheels of political propaganda, prompts us not to remain silent when hateful mayhem is being institutionalised under various pretexts, creating animosity and warped thinking (like Malema and even those who refer to such thoughts as crap!).
In every human being, there is some good...despite the bad that characterises all!
(tu)
'The experiences of Coloureds, before and after 1994, are something I'd like to hear more about, especially the half-educated, semi-employed, unnoticed and disregarded ones.'
Yes, the majority of Coloureds have ended totally marginalized, disregarded and discriminated against, more than whites and Indians. They have been at the butt of numerous jokes about their indolence and alcohol abuse. Unfortunate that, looking into their history, no leader (besides probably Adam Kok, my own great ancestor) ever came to lead them out of their squalor and poverty.
We Khoisan, could have been far richer than the Royal Bafokeng...pity!
You (involved with the numerous charitable organisations that you fund), others like you and I (involved with the squatters in Lanseria precinct that you aware of) know what common humanity is all about!
We also acknowledge the extent of ignorance about us diverse people as fellow human beings. That we are brought into focus as whites, Indians, Coloureds, Africans, etc, as wheels of political propaganda, prompts us not to remain silent when hateful mayhem is being institutionalised under various pretexts, creating animosity and warped thinking (like Malema and even those who refer to such thoughts as crap!).
In every human being, there is some good...despite the bad that characterises all!
(tu)
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Re: Re: Proudly South African
11 years 9 months ago
If you use the word " Coloured" in UK,you are instantly branded a racist or bigot..
But to the older generation that is what the Black Man was known as,I think it will take a few more generations until the word is for ever defunct
But to the older generation that is what the Black Man was known as,I think it will take a few more generations until the word is for ever defunct
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